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Re: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning

From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:16:12 -0700
Message-ID: <431B2BDC.3090506@icu-project.org>
To: Addison Phillips <addison.phillips@quest.com>
CC: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, ashok.malhotra@oracle.com, Jim Melton <jim.melton@acm.org>, Paul Cotton <pcotton@microsoft.com>, w3c-xsl-query@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org

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Mark

Felix Sasaki wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:17:24 +0900, Addison Phillips  
> <addison.phillips@quest.com> wrote:
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>>
>> I'm subscribed to the page, so I see your updates in real time. All 
>> of  your updates were excellent.
> 
> 
> I agree.
> 
> -- Felix
> 
>> I corrected the only typo I saw.
>>
>> Addison
>>
>> Addison P. Phillips
>> Globalization Architect, Quest Software
>> Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
>>
>> Internationalization is not a feature.
>> It is an architecture.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com]
>>> Sent: 2005?9?2? 17:08
>>> To: Addison Phillips; Jim Melton
>>> Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>>> Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>>
>>> I made a bunch of changes.  Please take a look.
>>>
>>> All the best, Ashok
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org
>>> > [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Addison Phillips
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:49 PM
>>> > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Jim Melton
>>> > Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>>> > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Ashok.
>>> >
>>> > Instead of sending us a mail with proposed changes, would you
>>> > consider putting them into the document directly? If you've
>>> > not used the Wiki previously, note that you can't really hurt
>>> > the document and this way we can track who did what. Most of
>>> > us get notified when the page is changed.
>>> >
>>> > Wiki instructions here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HelpOnFormatting
>>> >
>>> > Addison
>>> >
>>> > Addison P. Phillips
>>> > Globalization Architect, Quest Software
>>> > Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
>>> >
>>> > Internationalization is not a feature.
>>> > It is an architecture.
>>> >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com]
>>> > > Sent: 2005?9?1? 14:43
>>> > > To: Addison Phillips; Jim Melton
>>> > > Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>>> > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>> > >
>>> > > I think a W3C note (now called member submission?) is the
>>> > right way to
>>> > > surface this material.  I will suggest a few changes in wording and
>>> > > more specific description of what XML Schema and XML Query
>>> > provide.
>>> > > Watch your mail!
>>> > >
>>> > > All the best, Ashok
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org
>>> > > > [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
>>> > Addison Phillips
>>> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:12 AM
>>> > > > To: Jim Melton
>>> > > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org;
>>> > > > public-i18n-core@w3.org
>>> > > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks, Jim. If you happen to think of better terms, we would be
>>> > > > *very* happy to have suggestions. Note that the document
>>> > is in the
>>> > > > Wiki and can be modified.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I think that Note would be an appropriate format for this
>>> > > > information. Perhaps work on time zones would be
>>> > appropriate in some
>>> > > > other formats (like a REC) in the future, but this isn't it.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > A non-normative reference to it would be fine. Perhaps,
>>> > if I may be
>>> > > > so bold:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Note Well: Users and implementers handling time-related
>>> > data should
>>> > > > take the considerations in [[href:Note]] into account
>>> > even if time
>>> > > > zone sensitive data is rarely used. Sooner or later some
>>> > data will
>>> > > > be affected by the issues described in that document.
>>> > > > --
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The I18N Core WG will work to publish this ASAP, once we
>>> > are all in
>>> > > > agreement on the course of action.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Addison
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Addison P. Phillips
>>> > > > Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C
>>> > > > Internationalization Core Working Group
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Internationalization is not a feature.
>>> > > > It is an architecture.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > From: Jim Melton [mailto:jim.melton@acm.org]
>>> > > > > Sent: 2005?9?1? 10:03
>>> > > > > To: Addison Phillips
>>> > > > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com;
>>> > w3c-xsl-query@w3.org;
>>> > > > > public- i18n-core@w3.org
>>> > > > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Addison,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I am very pleased with your draft text.  It is one of the
>>> > > > better, more
>>> > > > > concise, and clearer discussions of this rather annoying
>>> > > > problem that
>>> > > > > I've encountered.  I am not particularly delighted with
>>> > the three
>>> > > > > names you've chosen, but I don't currently have a better
>>> > > > alternative to offer.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > You say that you wish to publish the document as a Note
>>> > and that
>>> > > > > we would then reference it in our document[s].  I
>>> > assume that our
>>> > > > > reference would be non-normative, because the text of a Note is
>>> > > > > not itself normative in any sense.  Right?  If my assumption is
>>> > > > correct,
>>> > > > > then I would have no objections to following your suggested
>>> > > > action.
>>> > > > > Among the advantages is the fact that a Note can be
>>> > > > published pretty
>>> > > > > quickly so that it is available no later than our documents
>>> > > > going to
>>> > > > > CR status, right?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > If I find little quibbles that I'd like changed, what
>>> > is the best
>>> > > > > process for making that happen?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > >     Jim
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > At 9/1/2005 09:48 AM, Addison Phillips wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >Hi Paul,
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >I had an action item to follow up this week with Ashok. I
>>> > > > believe we
>>> > > > > >are done with our editing homework. The question is
>>> > what form the
>>> > > > > >health warning should take in your document. Our text is
>>> > > > slightly long.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >We want to suggest that we publish our document as a Note and
>>> > > > > >that you include a reference to it in your document.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >The document itself is currently located in the Wiki:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nFAQTimeZone#preview
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Please let us know if you have particular concerns with
>>> > > > the content
>>> > > > > >or if you prefer a different course of action for
>>> > > > including material
>>> > > > > >from it in yours.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Addison
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Addison P. Phillips
>>> > > > > >Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C
>>> > > > > >Internationalization Core Working Group
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Internationalization is not a feature.
>>> > > > > >It is an architecture.
>>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > > From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
>>> > > > > > > Sent: 2005?8?31? 20:55
>>> > > > > > > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Addison Phillips
>>> > > > > > > Cc: w3c-xsl-query@w3.org
>>> > > > > > > Subject: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > ACTION A-Redmond05-01 Ashok will work with Addison to
>>> > > > > > > > develop text for the timezone health warning.
>>> > ETA end of August.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Is the text for the health warning ready?  If it is can
>>> > > > one of you
>>> > > > > > > please reply to this message with the proposed text or
>>> > > > a pointer to it?
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > /paulc
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>> > > > > > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>> > > > > > > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>> > > > > > > mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > ==============================================================
>>> > > > ==========
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>>> > > > +1.801.942.0144
>>> > > > >    Co-Chair, W3C XML Query WG; F&O (etc.) editor    Fax :
>>> > > > +1.801.942.3345
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