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Re: Process question re. autofocus bug status [was Re: autofocus on links is missing?]

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:22:09 +0100
To: "Marat Tanalin|tanalin.com" <mtanalin@yandex.ru>
Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20120225022209915257.d615603f@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Marat Tanalin|tanalin.com, Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:42:42 +0400:
> 25.02.2012, 00:19, "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>:

> Autofocus is actually one of HTML5 features that can be most easily 
> implemented with JavaScript, and I personally use it by default in 
> _each_ form that needs autofocusing (feedback forms, admin 
> interfaces, etc.).

Autofocus is simpler to define for form elements than for non-form 
elements, for a very simple reason: For form elements, it is already 
known what 'setting focus' means. But for non-form elements, then only 
Internet Explorer has a sensible implementation:

* CSS wise: Provided the element's is scrollable, then the
            element reacts to *:focus{background:Red} 

* Keyboard navigation: Setting focus to a scrollable element means
           that the element becomes keyboard scrollable via the 
           usual means - on a desktop computer, typically via the
           space key. 

The CSS is only implemented in IE. 
 
The keyboard navigation is implemented in Webkit and IE, last I 
checked. In Firefox it can be achieved via a hack. In Opera I don't 
think it is possible to hack it.

When I think about it, this issue should be split in 3: 

 1. The autofocus issue
 2. The 'what focus means for scrollable non-form elements' issue.
 3. The 'what focus means for *non*-scrollable non-forms elements' 
issue.

Regarding the 3rd point, then that is at least an issue in Webkit:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17450
-- 
Leif Halvard Silli
Received on Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:22:42 UTC

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