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Re: device independent title attribute support in browsers and follow up question

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 13:30:52 +0200
To: "Steve Faulkner" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "David Bolter" <dbolter@mozilla.com>, "Adrian Bateman" <adrianba@microsoft.com>, "Cynthia Shelly" <cyns@microsoft.com>, "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
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On Mon, 09 May 2011 12:29:11 +0200, Steve Faulkner  
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks Chaals,
>
> but you didn't actually answer any of the original questions:
>
> "Can any of the representatives from browser vendors provide
> information as to when the title attribute will be implemented so:

As Maciej said about Apple, Opera generally doesn't make statements about  
timelines for future development.

> [...it is useful...]
>
> the extension is a nice idea:
>
> Is this something that Opera plan will provide natively?

No comment...

> keyboard access to content should not be something people have to go and
> seek out an extension for.

Sure.

> The extension does not provide access to any title attribute content  
> that is not on a focusable element. which doesn't resolve the use case
> for titles on images to act as a caption.

Single-key element navigation in Opera lets you focus any element, so with  
the extension you do get the title tooltip on images, on a span element in  
a paragraph (that's what happens in the screenshot), etc.

cheers

> regards
> Steve
>
> On 9 May 2011 11:18, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:26:53 +0200, Steve Faulkner <
>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> I originally requested feedback on April 19th, since the 2 vendors have
>>> indicated that they have no plans to implement device independent  
>>> access
>>> to the title attribute.
>>>
>>> Can it be taken that the lack of response from Apple and Opera that  
>>> they
>>> also have no plans?
>>>
>>
>> No, that would be reading too much into me not replying in a timely  
>> manner.
>>
>> FYI I just submitted an extension that does this for Opera. It's  
>> described
>> at http://my.opera.com/chaals/blog/keytitle-extension and is extreely
>> trivial - could probably be done for other browsers in a matter of  
>> minutes
>> with a bit of copy/paste.
>>
>>  *A further question:*
>>>
>>>
>>> Do any vendors have plans to follow webkit's lead and display the title
>>> attribute content in place of an image when the image is not rendered?
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe we have any such plan (I hope not, too).
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> --
>> Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
>>    je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
>> http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
>>
>
>
>


-- 
Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
     je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
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