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Re: device independent title attribute support in browsers and follow up question

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:29:11 +0100
Message-ID: <BANLkTin_gqjUOTAj6OWEXZqdTg+bdjVsfg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
thanks Chaals,

but you didn't actually answer any of the original questions:

"Can any of the representatives from browser vendors provide
information as to when the title attribute will be implemented so:

* keyboard only users are aware that a title attribute is present on an
element?
* keyboard only users are able to access the title attribute content
on an element using the keyboard?
* The display of the title attribute content is configurable so that
users of screen magnifiers are able view title attribute content
within the viewport?
* access to title attribute content will be available on mobile and
touch browsers?"

the extension is a nice idea:

Is this something that Opera plan will provide natively?
keyboard access to content should not be something people have to go and
seek out an extension for.
The extension does not provide access to any title attribute content that is
not on a focusable element. which doesn't resolve the use case for titles on
images to act as a caption.

regards
Steve

On 9 May 2011 11:18, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 May 2011 11:26:53 +0200, Steve Faulkner <
> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> I originally requested feedback on April 19th, since the 2 vendors have
>> indicated that they have no plans to implement device independent access
>> to the title attribute.
>>
>> Can it be taken that the lack of response from Apple and Opera that they
>> also have no plans?
>>
>
> No, that would be reading too much into me not replying in a timely manner.
>
> FYI I just submitted an extension that does this for Opera. It's described
> at http://my.opera.com/chaals/blog/keytitle-extension and is extreely
> trivial - could probably be done for other browsers in a matter of minutes
> with a bit of copy/paste.
>
>  *A further question:*
>>
>>
>> Do any vendors have plans to follow webkit's lead and display the title
>> attribute content in place of an image when the image is not rendered?
>>
>
> I don't believe we have any such plan (I hope not, too).
>
> cheers
>
> --
> Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
>    je parle franšais -- hablo espa˝ol -- jeg lŠrer norsk
> http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
>



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