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Re: False aria-describedby expectations in ARIA Authoring Practices (longdesc)

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:08:11 -0700
Message-ID: <BANLkTikFMwoKY+2Q8gCXOm0yhspgP_uOxQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, HTMLwg <public-html@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Steve Faulkner
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jonas
>
>> I wrote a patch in about 30 minutes to do so.
>
> Interesting, so how is this behaviour exposed to users?
>
> Feedback received from the NVDA developers was that they want UI in the browser.

Like I said, this was a patch to the code that exposes content to AT
users. It would be equally trivial to add a context menu item for all
users (similar to what I believe opera does for their @longdesc
implementation). In fact, we could even display a context menu item
for each link if there are multiple as aria-describedby allows
pointing to multiple elements, many of which could be links.

> How does it affect current expected behaviour for describedby?

I'm not sure what you mean by "expected"? (I seem to have different
expectations of how aria-describedby should be exposed to users than
many others on this list).

But the patch does not affect how we expose describedby otherwise.
Given that I don't know our accessibility almost at all, I don't know
off the top of my head know the code that exposes aria-describedby to
users. However given that it's software, anything is possible :). But
I'd have to work on it a bit longer than 30 minutes to get something
working.

I'm willing to do such work, but this working group also has to be
willing to stop thinking outside the box of "what browsers/AT vendors
do today".

/ Jonas
Received on Friday, 22 April 2011 22:09:08 UTC

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