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Re: http content type authoritative for object data?

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:54:49 -0800
Message-Id: <74F24A41-9090-4F0D-94B4-520E85081B54@sicking.cc>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
On Dec 9, 2009, at 0:53, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:

> Jonas Sicking wrote:
>> ...
>> I should add that it's not entirely impossible that this could be  
>> made
>> to work, with sufficient evangelism efforts. Bug 1156 [1] (one of few
>> bug numbers I know by heart because it caused so many regressions)
>> changed things to match the HTML4 spec. We were able to stay with  
>> that
>> behavior fairly far into the Firefox 3.0 release before we were  
>> forced
>> to revert behavior in bug 395110 [2].
>> It is however possible that with the right combination of logic and
>> the right amount of evangelism effort to get a few high profile sites
>> fixed, it's possible that the http mime type could override the @type
>> mime type. I'm a bit reluctant to take a lead here though given our
>> previous failed attempt.
>> [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1156
>> [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395110
>> ...
>
> Summarizing from my point of view:
>
> - HTML5 currently requires ignoring authoritative metadata in some  
> cases. The information in [2] indicates that in at least one  
> measurement, this "fixed" around 1% of pages using <object>
>
> - Firefox changed to the HTML5 behavior (or something close to it)  
> early 2008

This is incorrect. In the Firefox 3.0 development cycle we tried to  
change our implementation to match HTML 4, but had to revert due to  
breaking websites.

There is lots of good data in the bugs I cited. And suggestions for  
further reasearch.

If someone feels passionate about this I suggest they do the remaining  
research as well as getting the know broken sites fixed. *That* has a  
much greater chance of getting implementations to change than anything  
any spec says.

/ Jonas
>
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