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Re: <progress> element and attributes vs. content

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:20:02 -0700
Message-ID: <63df84f0908141520vf290d1evbb507ca92d7ad900@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Cc: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Tab Atkins Jr.<jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Jonas Sicking<jonas@sicking.cc> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Lachlan Hunt<lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au> wrote:
>>> Adrian Bateman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 14, 2009 10:46 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Adrian Bateman<adrianba@microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also concerned about how fragile the content parsing rules may turn
>>>>>> out to be in practice.
>>>>
>>>>> This is anecdotal, but to me it appears that they're rather robust, at
>>>>> least for English.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is my specific concern - how well does this work
>>>> internationally?
>>>
>>> The parsing algorithm only supports using the full stop as the decimal
>>> separator.  People from regions that normally use the comma as the decimal
>>> separator, and who wish to use that notation for fallback, need to provide
>>> the value in the attributes.
>>>
>>> So to represent the value 75,3%, they would have to use:
>>>
>>> <progress value="0.753">75,3%</progress>
>>
>> Then there is the thousands-separator issue, in Swedish it's common to write
>>
>> <progress>203'321 byte av totalt 1'048'576<progress>
>
> I'm wondering if it's possible to revise the algorithm to ignore
> grouping glyphs commonly used internationally.  Even using the , as a
> thousands separator, as is common in English, would break parsing.

Actually, i noticed that "75 out of 100" is not a problem. The
algorithm says that the maximum number is the higher of the two, and
the current value is the lower.

However that makes something like this fun:

<progress>200 av 1,024</progress>

Is that 20% (comma interpreted as thousand separator) or is that 0.5%
(comma interpreted as decimal separator)?

/ Jonas
Received on Friday, 14 August 2009 22:21:08 UTC

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