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Re: <progress> element and attributes vs. content

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:00:55 -0500
Message-ID: <dd0fbad0908141500k327a189dh13de8a3a69a56bd9@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Cc: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Jonas Sicking<jonas@sicking.cc> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Lachlan Hunt<lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au> wrote:
>> Adrian Bateman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2009 10:46 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Adrian Bateman<adrianba@microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also concerned about how fragile the content parsing rules may turn
>>>>> out to be in practice.
>>>
>>>> This is anecdotal, but to me it appears that they're rather robust, at
>>>> least for English.
>>>
>>> I think this is my specific concern - how well does this work
>>> internationally?
>>
>> The parsing algorithm only supports using the full stop as the decimal
>> separator.  People from regions that normally use the comma as the decimal
>> separator, and who wish to use that notation for fallback, need to provide
>> the value in the attributes.
>>
>> So to represent the value 75,3%, they would have to use:
>>
>> <progress value="0.753">75,3%</progress>
>
> Then there is the thousands-separator issue, in Swedish it's common to write
>
> <progress>203'321 byte av totalt 1'048'576<progress>

I'm wondering if it's possible to revise the algorithm to ignore
grouping glyphs commonly used internationally.  Even using the , as a
thousands separator, as is common in English, would break parsing.

> And I'm worried that there are languages where writing
> <progress>Out of 100, so far 75</progress>
> would be common. However playing around with google translate I was
> unable to find one.

That was my original fear as well once I sat down to consider the
issue, but I also have no clue if that's common in any major language.

~TJ
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