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RE: No tabbed browsing in HTML 5?

From: Justin James <j_james@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:44:57 -0400
To: "'Justin Anthony Knapp'" <justinkoavf@gmail.com>, <john@netpurgatory.com>
Cc: "'N-at-Work'" <info@n-at-work.net>, <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <003d01c919ad$e23aa2e0$a6afe8a0$@com>

The behavior of _blank, _self, etc. is only defined in HTML as referring to
browsing contexts. However a particular UA chooses to implement that is up
to them. _blank, _self, etc. have meaning, even within a browser like Lynx.
_tab does not. It just so happens that the most popular use case for _blank
is to open a new tab/window, but that does not mean that this is within the
scope of the HTML specification.

J.Ja

From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Anthony Knapp
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:43 AM
To: john@netpurgatory.com
Cc: N-at-Work; public-html@w3.org
Subject: Re: No tabbed browsing in HTML 5?

It seems that most browsers have an option to "open in new window" or "open
in new tab" and that is probably best handled as a end-user issue. I
understand your rationale, though.

And, as pointed out, someone will find a work-around: some script
bookmarklet or Firefox extension that opens the _tabs in _windows and
vice-versa. The notion of declaring parts of the browser is a bit silly to
me. Why not _new or _newdocument or somesuch to signify that this link is
probably not supposed to replace this document's display, but can be
displayed however the end user and the permissions of his program allow?

-JAK
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:33, John C. Vernaleo <john@netpurgatory.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, N-at-Work wrote:

So what do you think about ?_tab? as an additional keyword.



http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#target6

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I for one really don't see how that is a legit thing for authors to decide.
 Seems completely a user agent decision to me.  (Not to mention terminal
based browsers like lynx and screen readers that would have no reasonable
way to support it.)

I can barely remember how I used the web before tabs, but I still wouldn't
want to give control of that to the html author (and as an author I wouldn't
want that control either).  If it were added to the spec, then browsers
would have to come up with a way to ignore them which seems like it means
extra work has to get done by everyone.



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