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charter diffs [was: An HTML language spec...]

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:13:50 -0600
To: "Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1227226430.31312.47.camel@pav.lan>

On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 23:16 +0000, Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) wrote:
> OK, we have enough agreement for there to be
> no real benefit in pursuing any points of
> difference, but I would like clarification
> on one thing : where you write
> 
> > The relevance of the work Ian did and does in the WHAT WG is also
> > noted in our charter:
> > 
> > "The HTML Working Group will actively pursue convergence with WHATWG,
> > encouraging open participation within the bounds of the W3C patent
> > policy and available resources."
> >  -- http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html
> 
> Yes, I can see that this is the case, but
> at the bottom of the Charter document, it says
> 
> > $Revision: 1.23 $ of $Date: 2008/09/05 07:12:49 $
>
> How does one find earlier revisions, and are
> there "differences" documents indicating what
> has been changed.  And on what basis is the
> Charter changed, and have there been 23
> individual changes or 2 major with three
> minor to the most recent major ?

Wild... I didn't realize the charter had been changed
since v 1.21 that was ratified 7 March 2008. Changes before
that are an administrative detail, like backups of
working papers. But changes since then should certainly
be shared with the WG.

The process for substantive changes to the charter involves
a 4 week review by the representatives of the W3C membership.
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/activities.html#ActivityModification
We have done none of those in this WG.

The most recent change was clearly editorial. CVS says
Mike "added some IDs".

(Mike, I doubt this change was worth the trouble; it
suggests charters are less stable than I'd like.)

The change before that was (a) to add a link to the
homepage and (b) to clean up some wording about XHTML.
Again, if it were up to me, I wouldn't have touched it.

For full disclosure, here are the diffs in detail:


===================================================================
RCS file: /w3ccvs/WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html,v
retrieving revision 1.22
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -r1.22 -r1.23
--- WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html	2007/04/18 10:48:03	1.22
+++ WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html	2008/09/05 07:12:49	1.23
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@
         </div>
       
 
-        <h3>Success Criteria</h3>
+        <h3 id="success">Success Criteria</h3>
         <div>
           <p>
             The HTML Working Group's work will be considered a success
@@ -184,9 +184,9 @@
 
  
       
-      <h3>Other Deliverables</h3>
+      <h3 id="other">Other Deliverables</h3>
       
-      <p>
+      <p id="testsuite">
         The Group will create a comprehensive <em>test suite</em> for the HTML specification.
       </p>
       <p  id="validate">The Group will ensure that<em> validation tools</em> are available, 
@@ -485,7 +485,7 @@
       <a href="http://www.w3.org/People/chris">Chris Lilley</a>  &lt;<a href="mailto:chris@w3.org">chris@w3.org</a>&gt;, 
 <a href="http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/">Tim Berners-Lee</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:timbl@w3.org">timbl@w3.org</a>&gt;
 <br />
-    <span class="revinfo">$Revision: 1.22 $ of $Date: 2007/04/18 10:48:03 $</span>
+    <span class="revinfo">$Revision: 1.23 $ of $Date: 2008/09/05 07:12:49 $</span>
     </address>
 
     <p class="copyright"><a rel="Copyright" href="/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#Copyright">Copyright</a>©


===================================================================
RCS file: /w3ccvs/WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html,v
retrieving revision 1.21
retrieving revision 1.22
diff -u -r1.21 -r1.22
--- WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html	2007/03/07 14:51:58	1.21
+++ WWW/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html	2007/04/18 10:48:03	1.22
@@ -75,9 +75,8 @@
 
       <p>
         This group will maintain and produce incremental
-        revisions to the HTML specification, which includes
-        the series of specifications previously published as XHTML version
-        1. Both XML and 'classic HTML' syntaxes will be produced.</p>
+        revisions to the HTML specification. 
+        Both XML and 'classic HTML' syntaxes will be produced.</p>
 
         <p>The Group will define conformance and parsing requirements 
           for 'classic HTML',  taking into account legacy implementations;
@@ -210,7 +209,8 @@
 	      
 	      <tfoot>
 		<tr>
-		  <td colspan="7" rowspan="1">Note: The group will document significant changes from this initial schedule on the group home page.</td>
+		  <td colspan="7" rowspan="1">Note: The group will document significant changes from this initial schedule on the 
+		  <a href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/">group home page</a>.</td>
 		</tr>
 	      </tfoot>
 	      
@@ -410,7 +410,7 @@
       
       
 	<p>This group primarily conducts its technical work on 
-	a Public mailing list <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/">public-html</a>, to be created following charter approval (archive),
+	a Public mailing list <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/">public-html</a>.
 	  It is referred to in the rest of this document as <em>the Working Group mailing list</em>.</p>
 
 	  <p>The <a
@@ -485,7 +485,7 @@
       <a href="http://www.w3.org/People/chris">Chris Lilley</a>  &lt;<a href="mailto:chris@w3.org">chris@w3.org</a>&gt;, 
 <a href="http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/">Tim Berners-Lee</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:timbl@w3.org">timbl@w3.org</a>&gt;
 <br />
-    <span class="revinfo">$Revision: 1.21 $ of $Date: 2007/03/07 14:51:58 $</span>
+    <span class="revinfo">$Revision: 1.22 $ of $Date: 2007/04/18 10:48:03 $</span>
     </address>
 
     <p class="copyright"><a rel="Copyright" href="/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#Copyright">Copyright</a>©

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Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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