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Re: Button Element in IE8

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:35:46 -0800
Message-ID: <49484962.7050106@sicking.cc>
To: Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@ltgt.net>
CC: public-html <public-html@w3.org>

Thomas Broyer wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Travis Leithead wrote:
>> I've got a customer pointing me to http://www.kloots.net/ie8/bug-01.php,
>> which demos a supposed IE8 bug. However, I've searched HTML4 and HTML5 and
>> can't find any normative text that backs up the author's claim that it's
>> wrong to submit the BUTTON's value if the button is not of type=submit.
>>
>> Is this really a bug?>
> 
> Yes.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#adef-type-BUTTON
> """This attribute declares the type of the button. Possible values:
>  * submit: Creates a submit button. This is the default value.
>  * reset: Creates a reset button.
>  * button: Creates a push button."""
> Where "push button" links to:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#push-button
> ""Authors may create three types of buttons:
>  * submit buttons: When activated, a submit button submits a form. A
> form may contain more than one submit button.
>  * reset buttons: When activated, a reset button resets all controls
> to their initial values.
>  * push buttons: Push buttons have no default behavior. Each push
> button may have client-side scripts associated with the element's
> event attributes. When an event occurs (e.g., the user presses the
> button, releases it, etc.), the associated script is triggered."""
> 
> Isn't it clear that <button type=button> does *not* trigger a form
> submit? (except if a script handle the "click" event with
> form.submit())
> 
>> If so, can you conjure up some clarifying text in
>> section 4.10.5?
> 
> How isn't HTML5 even clearer already?
> """Submit Button
>    If the element has a form owner, the element must submit the form
> owner from the button element.
> 
> Reset Button
>    If the element has a form owner, the element must reset the form owner.
> 
> Button
>    Do nothing."""
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#attr-button-type-button-state

Note that the question isn't about if the button submits the form. But 
rather if the buttons value is included when the form is submitted 
through other means.

/ Jonas
Received on Wednesday, 17 December 2008 00:34:47 GMT

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