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Re: hand authoring web pages (was Re: Exploring new vocabularies for HTML)

From: Ben Boyle <benjamins.boyle@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:06:14 +1000
Message-ID: <5f37426b0804020206l68de0b25hadca09f0e465e21a@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>
Cc: "Neil Soiffer" <Neils@dessci.com>, "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Just to confuse the issue more I will add that a lot of the systems
that generate HTML use templates that were created by ... handcoding?
coding in an IDE or WYSIWYG? etc. Do users of WYSIWYG editors not ever
look at the HTML view? (Some do). Do they always leave the generator
tag in there? (Some don't).

Hand authoring is not just about authoring complete HTML documents. It
is often about tweaking HTML code in other systems, templates,
frameworks, XSLT files, wysiwyg editors and so on. It's not the be all
and end all, but it remains an important aspect of the lower barrier
to creating and contributing web content.

And then there's hand authoring for systems like mediawiki and forums
that use their own form of ""markup"" ~:)



On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org> wrote:
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>  Le 1 avr. 2008 à 23:05, Neil Soiffer a écrit :
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> > As researchers and designers, it is important for us to realize our own
> biases and the uniqueness of the world that immediately surrounds us.
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>  hear hear.
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> > Another group of pages is generated by what we typically think of as web
> page editing tools (Dreamweaver, FrontPage, GoLive, XMLSpay, ...).
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> > Some (many?) of the software that generates web pages leave marks that
> identify its source.
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>  I encourage ian hickson and other surveys runners, for example, to run a
> survey on validity of iWeb generated pages. And see what is the proportion
> of valid documents compared to other identified pages.
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>  for example:
>  <meta name="Generator" content="iWeb 1.1.1" />
>  <META NAME=GENERATOR CONTENT="Claris Home Page 3.0">
>  <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
>  <meta name='generator' content='EZNOW!'>
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>  etc.
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>  --
>  Karl Dubost - W3C
>  http://www.w3.org/QA/
>  Be Strict To Be Cool
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