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Re: html 5 and accessibility issue

From: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:19:55 +0200
To: aurélien levy <aurelien.levy@free.fr>, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.tuqp7hqz64w2qv@annevk-t60.oslo.opera.com>

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:07:24 +0200, aurélien levy <aurelien.levy@free.fr>  
>>> - dt/dd need a reel relationship like the for attribut on label  
>>> mechanism
>> Why is there a need for this? The specification defines exactly what  
>> the relationship is between them. Much like HTML4 did.
> because actually i can do :
> <dl>
>  <dt> 1st terme </dt>
>  <dd> 1st terme description </dd>
>  <dd> 2nd terme description </dd>
>  <dt> 2nd terme </dt>
>  <dt> 3rd terme</dt>
>  <dd> 3rd terme description</dd>
> </dl>
> with no way for AT to know that 2nd terme description is actually the  
> 2nd terme description and not the second description of the first terme

Actually, no, you can't. What you're doing is not conforming to either  
HTML 4 or HTML 5.

>>> - actually their is no fallback content for embed element
>> Why is that needed for plugins?
> maybe i misunderstand the function of the embed element. Is this just a  
> way to link to the plugins ? or a way to use it to show some content  
> like the object element

Embedding a plugin.

>>> - the only fallback content for iframe elements is pure text, i think  
>>> we need to authorize an "a" element to link to the content of the  
>>> iframe
>> Doesn't the <iframe> do that already? I'm not sure <iframe> needs  
>> "fallback" content at all.
> I don't know if all UA do that but it's not the actual spec
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#edef-IFRAME
> If all the UA do that, it's no enough to just say there is no need to  
> author fallback, i think we need to say that this fallback content is  
> given by the UA  with something like  IFRAME: "content of the src  
> attribut on the iframe element"

Huh? <iframe> is just a way to embed another web page. Surely that page  
should be made accessible to the user. Not sure why you need fallback  
content for that.

Anne van Kesteren
Received on Saturday, 30 June 2007 15:20:02 UTC

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