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Re: fear of "invisible metadata"

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:01:00 -0500
To: Sander Tekelenburg <st@isoc.nl>
Cc: public-html@w3.org
Message-Id: <1182801661.6367.924.camel@pav>

On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 20:19 +0200, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> At 10:58 -0500 UTC, on 2007-06-25, Dan Connolly wrote:
> [...]
> > (b) I happened to peek at this message, but I stopped reading this
> > thread a long time ago. Are we still talking about fear
> > of "invisible metadata"?
> Yes. It has evolved to some more specific things, like discussion of the
> (im)possibility of <pic scr=>textual alternative</pic> to take over <img
> alt=>, but in my mind it naturally evolved from what the Subject says and
> still relates to that: the argument that invisible metadata is difficult to
> author; that if HTML5 can make it easier to author, that would be worth an
> effort. Similarly, the idea that alt, title, longdesc, etc. are even to be
> considered "invisible" metadata, and therefore to be kept, removed or
> replaced, is still being discussed.

It doesn't seem necessary for us to agree whether these are
invisible metadata or not... unless someone proposing a new
requirement or design principle and I missed it.

> > If there's anything substantive left
> > to this thread, I strongly recommend starting over in a new thread.
> {frown} Seriously?

Well, perhaps the current thread has some value, but I think
"fear" is a poor label for "difficulty of authoring" and
I have little interest in whether something is considered
invisible metadata or not.

I'd much rather be able to tell from the subject which section
of which document(s) we're talking about... or at least
a use-case or an issue illustrated in a concrete example document.

Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
Received on Monday, 25 June 2007 20:01:05 UTC

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