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Re: fear of "invisible metadata"

From: Maurice Carey <maurice@thymeonline.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:42:57 -0400
To: HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C2A55AC1.2EBD%maurice@thymeonline.com>

On 6/22/07 6:34 PM, "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:


><snip>
>There may be times when doing so may be
>annoying or detrimental to other users. Then try to avoid it. For
>instance ALT text that is identical to an adjacent text is
>unnecessary, and an irritant to screen reader users.
>
><snip>
>
>First, in degree of descriptiveness title is in between alt and
>longdesc. It adds useful information and can add flavor. It helps
>people who have screen readers set up to work with it. The title
>attribute is optionally rendered by the user agent. Remember they are
>invisible and not shown as a "tooltip" when focus is received via the
>keyboard. (So much for device independence). So use the title
>attribute only for advisory information. The fact that title attribute
>happens to render as a tooltip for mouse users possibly deals with the
>majority, but we are talking about providing the same equivalent
>information for everyone.
>

so in cases where the client wants tooltips, accessibility demands alt
values and design/common sense calls for captions next to the photos, would
be super-irritating to screen reader users?
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