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Re: Neutrality in "HTML 5 differences from HTML 4"

From: James Graham <jg307@cam.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:02:24 +0100
Message-ID: <468AAB50.1060503@cam.ac.uk>
To: "Philip Taylor (Webmaster)" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
Cc: Robert Burns <rob@robburns.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>

Philip Taylor (Webmaster) wrote:
> James Graham wrote:
>> I am concerned that this working group may quickly gain a reputation 
>> for being dysfunctional if we are not able to produce any 
>> deliverables. If publishing a simple factual precis of the differences 
>> between HTML4 and the current HTML 5 draft is this hard, I cannot 
>> imagine the working group will ever agree on something substantial 
>> like publishing an actual spec.
> I think that is a very realistic appraisal, and not one that
> fills me with unmitigated horror.  At the moment, I simply
> cannot see HTML 5 [1] as a step forward; a step sideways, yes --
> in some ways better than HTML 4.01, in some ways poorer.

In that case I cannot imagine what issues you would have with 
publishing a document likely to motivate more people to get involved 
with improving HTML 5.

> But if we cannot agree a specification that 98.5%+ of us agree
> is indisputably /better/ than HTML 4.01, then in my honest
> opinion it is better that we publish nothing.

I have great difficulty believing that it is possible to reach that 
level of agreement on _anything_ (HTML related or not) in a group this 
size and that trying to do so might make the WG less relevant than it 
would otherwise be. However I don't understand how this issue is at-all 
related to the publishing of a work-in-progress document designed to 
help people understand the current state of the spec and contribute 
their expertise to it.

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