- From: Andrew Ramsden <andrew@irama.org>
- Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:41:05 +1000
- To: Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@gmail.com>
- CC: public-html@w3.org, Ben Boyle <benjamins.boyle@gmail.com>
>> tr > tbody > td {
>> border: 1px solid red;
>> }
> You might have wanted to use table > tr and table > tbody > tr as
> selectors...
IE6 doesn't respect styling of tr elements so I think table > tbody > td
was probably fine.
> you'll have to support *both* DLs with DIs
> (be they "implied" or not at parsing) and DLs without in your scripts
> *and* stylesheets.
I agree with you here, but I don't think that's a reason to not have a
di element.
I know you feel its redundant, but I think it adds clarity (even if only
for the sake of authors who refuse to read the spec carefully - even for
dumb authors like me ;) ).
Its probably about time we started to summarize much of this discussion
on the wiki. (would this the appropriate node?
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueDiElement)
Cheers,
Andrew Ramsden
Thomas Broyer wrote:
> 2007/7/3, Ben Boyle:
>>
>> On 7/3/07, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> wrote:
>> > The <tbody> element is inferred by the HTML parser if the tags are
>> > absent.
>>
>> Hmm. Parsing is not my strong suit, forgive any misunderstandings ...
>>
>> I just did a test here, a simple HTML doc with a table and no <tbody>
>> elements.
>> Then I applied some styles:
>> tr > td {
>> border: 1px solid blue;
>> }
>>
>> tr > tbody > td {
>> border: 1px solid red;
>> }
>>
>> The borders are blue (Firefox 2). There is no "implied tbody" (as I
>> understand it, as an author!)
>
> You might have wanted to use table > tr and table > tbody > tr as
> selectors...
>
>> I also tested <di> and it did nothing...
>> couldn't access it for styling. No surprise, it's not in any current
>> spec.
>
> That's wrong, I styled it successfully in Firefox 2, Opera 9.21 and
> Safari 3.0.2 for Windows (but not in IE 7, because it puts a pair DI
> and /DI –yes an element whose name starts with a slash– empty elements
> in the DOM).
>
> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/0109.html
> (beware, the archives cuts the link to my experiments in the middle of
> the URI, you'll have to copy/paste it)
>
>> Parsing aside, I believe my use case still relevant for a <di>
>> element.
>
> The problem is not about parsing, it's about support of
> non-html5-aware browsers: you'll have to support *both* DLs with DIs
> (be they "implied" or not at parsing) and DLs without in your scripts
> *and* stylesheets.
>
Received on Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:41:03 UTC