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Re[2]: Decision cube

From: Dmitry Turin <html60@narod.ru>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:56:20 +0400
To: public-html@w3.org, www-style@w3.org
Message-Id: <201701188273380@webmail20.yandex.ru>

Good day, fantasai.



f> I can't tell what benefits your markup is trying

f> to offer that aren't already covered by the tables markup in HTML4.

  All reasons was covered by assembler,

but programming languages appeared for other purpose.

  All layout can be made without <table>,

but <table> is used for make-up, because it's convenient.

  All appendings to html-documents can be made by XmlHttpRequest,

but auto-table and auto-tree are making this easier

(i wrote about them in

http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/looker_eng.htm and

http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/tree_eng.htm ).

  You are againt things, because they are consist of atom:

you don't feel wholeness, integral characteristics.



f> use case doesn't strike me as very common

(1) HTML has many features, which are not very common -

and even seldom, recall last discussion about <figure>, <picture>

for example.

(2) It's enough common - look at spreadsheets.



f> It seems more like you're trying to capture all the relationships

f> of a multi-dimensional database in HTML+CSS

(1) -- point one is below --

(2) What's about particular case of DBMS:

(2.1) using of DBMS in sites is reality,

it's foolishly to avoid this and make view like this doesn't exist

(2.2) "all" use cases of DBMS in sites

are less than infinit, and even are less then counting :)

Now i found only 3:

I.   attribute in role of tag

     http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/label_eng.htm

IIa. slice of hyper-cube in representation 'A'

     http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/tabfile_eng.htm

IIb. slice of hyper-cube in representation 'B'

     http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/cube_eng.htm



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f> Dmitry, CSS is a styling language

Strongly disagree: we already raised this question -

CSS specifies presentation, pronouncing, binding.



f> It seems more like you're trying to capture all the relationships

f> of a multi-dimensional database in HTML+CSS

(1) Current moment upstage (close) your eyes:

i'm proposing to draw line and use it in form

http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/vml_eng.htm

http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/vml-form_eng.htm ,

to refer to place of document, which is not marked by author

http://html60.chat.ru/site/html60/en/author/label_eng.htm , etc



f> that's not the purpose of these languages

(1) Purpose of languages is topic of separate research,

result of which is not so obviously, as you think.

(2) Pay attention, that purpose of any thing depends of time:

purpose is being changed with time.



f> HTML+CSS ... is not supposed to be the database itself.

I will imply, that you are not mistaken,

when you wrote 'database', but not 'DBMS'.

(1) html-document contain data, and it is database __in this sense__.

(2) now HTML has no construction to represent this data so,

as __user want__.





Dmitry Turin

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