Re: [Bug 10838] New: Make <u> conforming.

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b.pn {
    font-weight: inherit;
}

b.pn:lang(zh) {
    text-decoration: underline;
}

b.pn:lang(zh) + b.pn:lang(zh) {
    margin-left: .25em;
}

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http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/b.html




 Sep 30, 2010 6:26 PM 嚗 Zi Bin Cheah 撖怠堆

> 銝瑕典之撽祉舀瓷鈭箇剁憭折颲孵霂乩撠具航賣葛唳蝘銋行剁萇爾銋衣銵銋航賭典其蝙函
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> 敶嗉瘝⊥閫喃瑞瘙喳啁銝銝芣寞舐皂ark嗅每SS褚nderline摰銝敺餈銝芣寞摰嚗
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> 嗉窈銝銝嚗啣冽寧泵瑞冽盍uby嚗
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> On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:46 AM, KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote:
> 
>> 隤芣銝銝蝞臬銋撠閮隢[1]嚗蝮賭撠望臬HTML5璅皞貉喳銝<u>曉具銝璅皞璅蝐扎[2] 喳曉具撠鋡急璉雿臬璅皞[3]敺望瘝券萎辣蝢斤敺啣梯嚗雿臬10/1憪望皞航炊蝔脣乩銝畾菜隞交喳撣霅圈券鋡急踹箔閮隢銝銝桀瘜
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>> - 銝唳蝐歹<pn>銋憿嚗敺銝航
>> - <a><a href>嚗撅祆扳潘臭蝔格翰
>> - <span class="pn"> 舀暺憭芷瑚
>> - Mike頝雓隤<i>銝靘敺憭批臬箄正寞冽擃璅孵嚗蝮賭賜潭銝<ship>扼隞<u>舀頛撖血函嚗銝銋銝撠鈭箸舀<u>踹靘
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>> 蝮賭霅圈瘜賣CC圈銵典佗憒獢鋡怠蝯鈭憭批振銋憭憭剛圾HTML5蝺刻摩Ian Hickson舀暻澆鈭扼霅圈梯ㄐ銋唬銋閮隢嚗銝撟游鈭嚗嚗鈭箔暻<u>銝閬鈭雿<b><i>靘鈭嚗銝餉撠望<u>頝頞蝯瘛瑚憿嚗銝賣隞暻潔犖啣隞仿甈∪停靘踵鈭銝佗
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>> 蝛箏憭隞蝝嫣鈭HTML5鈭箏改浮ug鋆⊥啁AppleMaciej[5]嚗
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>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-zh/2010Aug/threadl#msg184
>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#non-conforming-features
>> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#obsolete-but-conforming-features
>> [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/thread#msg268
>> [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maciej_Stachowiak
>> 
>> 甇方
>> 
>> Kenny
>> 
>> On 2010/09/30, at 8:06, bugzilla@jessica.w3.org wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10838
>>> 
>>>         Summary: Make <u> conforming.
>>>         Product: HTML WG
>>>         Version: unspecified
>>>        Platform: PC
>>>             URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#obsolete-but-
>>>                  conforming-features
>>>      OS/Version: All
>>>          Status: NEW
>>>        Severity: major
>>>        Priority: P3
>>>       Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
>>>      AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
>>>      ReportedBy: kennyluck@w3.org
>>>       QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
>>>              CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
>>>                  public-html@w3.org, public-i18n-cjk@w3.org,
>>>                  public-html-ig-zh@w3.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This was discussed in a long thread[1] three years ago. There was no consensus
>>> and no response from the editor, but since some people like Maciej think we can
>>> make <u> at least conforming[2], I would like to raise this bug to catch the
>>> editor's attention.
>>> 
>>> Proper name mark, in Chinese [3] is a use case that was slightly mentioned in
>>> the thread (see also an example picture[4]). The purpose of this mark is to
>>> highlight *every* proper noun in some text to help the reader break words,
>>> cause Chinese people don't use spaces for word breaking. Although it is no
>>> longer popular recently, proper name mark is still used in some textbooks in
>>> Taiwan (esp. children's Chinese textbook) and Hong Kong. Because the purpose
>>> and frequency of using "proper name mark" in a piece of text is similar to code
>>> highlighting, I personally don't think it's appropriate to use <mark> for this
>>> purpose since the spec says "This (<mark>) is separate from syntax
>>> highlighting, for which span is more appropriate." But then <span class="pn">
>>> is probably too long. This is not yet a very prevalent use case because proper
>>> name marks are often used in combination with vertical text and vertical text
>>> is not yet popular on the Web.
>>> 
>>> While I do strongly agree that an underlined text which is not a hyperlink
>>> confuses the user in his/her browsing experience, there are HTML user agents
>>> for which browsing the Web isn't the main purpose and hence the user might not
>>> get confused. e-book readers are such examles.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/thread#msg268
>>> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Dec/0307
>>> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_name_mark
>>> [4] http://www.go8.com.tw/files/4168%200004.jpg
>>> 
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