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Re: Role of this email group after October 1st

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:10:55 -0400
Message-ID: <4CA4EECF.40908@intertwingly.net>
To: Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>
CC: public-html-comments@w3.org, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
On 09/30/2010 03:49 PM, Shelley Powers wrote:
> On 9/30/10 2:15 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> On 09/30/2010 03:04 PM, Shelley Powers wrote:
>>> On 9/30/10 1:21 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>> On 09/30/2010 01:13 PM, Shelley Powers wrote:
>>>>> According to the Last Call timeline, starting tomorrow (Oct 1) all new
>>>>> bugs in the HTML WG bugzilla data are automatically labeled Last Call
>>>>> comments, which is somewhat equivalent to being made an issue,
>>>>> directly.
>>>>
>>>> How did you come to that conclusion?
>>>>
>>>> My assumption is that bugs entered during Last Call will be processed
>>>> in a manner very similar to the way that bugs are resolved today: a
>>>> set of them will be FIXED, a set will be WONTFIX and not pursued, and
>>>> a set will become TrackerRequests and we will solicit change proposals.
>>>
>>> Because the timeline said that bugs entered into the database after
>>> October 1 will be treated like Last Call comments.
>>>
>>> "
>>> - Oct 1, 2010 - cutoff for bugs to be considered as pre-LC feedback
>>> Consequence of missing this date: bugs beyond this date will be treated
>>> as Last Call comments. The Chairs could grant exceptions on a
>>> case-by-case basis, but in general there is no guarantee of a bug filed
>>> after the cutoff being settled before Last Call.
>>> "
>>
>> And how, exactly is that "somewhat equivalent to being made an issue,
>> directly"?
>>
>> I'm assuming that the general process will be roughly the same; the
>> key difference is that bugs entered after October 1 will not be
>> guaranteed to block entrance to Last Call.
>>
>> If there are suggestions as to how the process should be changed, I
>> would suggest entering them as bugs on the Decision Policy:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&component=working+group+Decision+Policy
>
> Let me try this again:
>
> How will we designate comments that are to be treated as Last Call
> comments in this email group? Do we use [Last Call Comment] in the
> subject line or something in order to designate an item as a Last Call
> Comment? Or should we wait until an official Last Call request is made?

The intent is to get all Last Call comments entered into bugzilla, and 
processed as bugs.

> I'm not going to enter bugs into the bugzilla database starting
> tomorrow, because I'll most likely handle a Last Call comment
> differently than I would do a bug request. I'm willing to wait until the
> Last Call is made, if that's what the co-chairs would prefer.

Our intent is to treat Last Call comments as bug reports.

> I have also not received a definitive answer on submitting change
> proposals as a non-member. And this one does have an open bug in the
> bugzilla database.

I agree with Laura's comment[1] there, and anticipate that it will be 
incorporated into the next draft:

"Non-members are encouraged to join the working group so they can fully
participate in this process. But extenuating circumstances for not 
joining the group will be considered by the Chairs on a case-by-case basis."

>>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>
> Shelley

- Sam Ruby

[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10524#c18
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