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Re: ACTION-228 - Produce a list of the bugs relating to the alt guidance changes [on Steve Faulkner - due 2014-02-06]

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:20:02 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vncmf+_7LsyO=yhpEpg+uXUMC2YcL6MpHVztjnCcfhO3w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>
Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, "Charles McCathie Nevile (chaals@yandex-team.ru)" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)" <rubys@intertwingly.net>
There is only ONE CR bug resolved fixed that needs to be ported back:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23059

related commits:
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/5a8abca8892b7150faeb6b627303446b248f14e1
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/19d6ee4251dd09bf1318bc7feced23d6a23ba5fe
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/3167ea4c58a55715b12ba1440d70e9b02033fa60


there is one editorial issue that does not have a bug - awaiting taskforce
to file, provide info.

list of bugs that have were thought to be in 5.1 only but have been ported
back to CR


a)      *Bug 9215* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215> -
Provide a Webcam example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to "HTML5:
Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"

in 5.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#webcam-images

b)      *Bug 9216* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216> -
Provide a CAPTCHA example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to "HTML5:
Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"

in 5.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#captcha-images

c)      *Bug 22161*
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22161>- paragraph
contains inaccuracies

in 5.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#general-guidelines

d)     *Bug 22375* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22375> -
Images of text where there is also an image

in 5.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#a-group-of-images-that-form-a-single-larger-picture-with-no-links

e)      *Bug 22438*
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22438>- Alt text for
an image to a home page of a web site

in 5.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#a-link-or-button-containing-nothing-but-an-image

f)       *Bug 22774*
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22774>- 4.8.1.1.3
Image alts and explanations

in 5.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#alt

g)      *Bug 20404*
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20404>- more non
conforming uses of title attribute in example code

in 5.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#when-a-text-alternative-is-not-available-at-the-time-of-publication
--

Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 26 March 2014 14:56, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  From the 13 March TF minutes:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Mar/0055.html
>
> > Alt Guidance & Next Steps
>
> >   JS: Steve will be giving us an update at CSUN. HTML chairs are
> expecting it.
>
>
>
> Can we please get a written report on where we stand on the status with
> the Alt Guidance work and discuss the status of this work on the A11Y TF
> teleconference this week?
>
>
>
> /paulc
>
>
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:28 PM
> *To:* Steve Faulkner
> *Cc:* public-html-a11y@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)
> *Subject:* RE: ACTION-228 - Produce a list of the bugs relating to the
> alt guidance changes [on Steve Faulkner - due 2014-02-06]
>
>
>
> The Chairs are encouraging the HTML5 editors to close out all outstanding
> CR bugs by March 15.
>
>
>
> As per our discussion today on the A11Y TF teleconference today could you
> give us an update on your work on the "Open" and "FIXED in HTML 5.1" bugs
> listed below?  In particular the Chairs are interested in knowing when all
> the work on the alt guidance changes will be completed in HTML 5.0?
>
>
>
> /paulc
>
>
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:35 PM
> *To:* Steve Faulkner
> *Cc:* public-html-a11y@w3.org
> *Subject:* RE: ACTION-228 - Produce a list of the bugs relating to the
> alt guidance changes [on Steve Faulkner - due 2014-02-06]
>
>
>
> If this is the entire list then we are very close to being able to finish
> the work on moving the content of the "alt techniques" WD [1] to HTML 5.
>
>
>
> I have split this bug list into those bugs that are a) Open, b) FIXED in
> HTML 5.1 and c) FIXED in HTML 5.0.
>
>
>
> Steve: Can you check the "Fixed in HTML 5.1" category to ensure that I
> have these items correct?  For this list I believe we need to decide which
> of these items need to be moved to HTML 5.0.
>
>
>
> Open
>
> a)      18450 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18450>Consider adding a screen capture example
>
>
>
> FIXED in HTML 5.1
>
>
>
> a)      *Bug 9215* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215>- Provide a Webcam example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to
> "HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"
>
> b)      *Bug 9216* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216>- Provide a CAPTCHA example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to
> "HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"
>
> c)      *Bug 22161* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22161>- paragraph contains inaccuracies
>
> d)     *Bug 22375* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22375>- Images of text where there is also an image
>
> e)      *Bug 22438* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22438>- Alt text for an image to a home page of a web site
>
> f)       *Bug 22774*<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22774>- 4.8.1.1.3 Image alts and explanations
>
> g)      *Bug 20404* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20404>- more non conforming uses of title attribute in example code
>
>
>
> FIXED in HTML 5.0
>
>
>
> a)      8827 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827>Inappropriate spec text and advice where images are not known
>
> b)      *Bug 10708* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708>- change normative alt text authoring requirements to informative advice
>
> c)      *Bug 13428* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428>- Remove 4.8.1.1 Requirements for providing text to act as an alternative
> for images
>
> d)     *Bug 13728* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13728>- on guidance for conformance checkers about text alternatives
>
> e)      20401 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20401> non
> conforming use of title attribute in example code
>
> f)       20402 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20402> use
> of title attribute in example is incorrect
>
> g)      20403 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20403> spec
> states plural conditions when only 1 condition is conforming
>
> h)      20405 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20405>plural 'conditions' used when only one condition exists
>
> i)        *Bug 21420*<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21420>- note about conforming image is incorrect
>
> j)        *Bug 21941*<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21941>- Spaghetti Monster reference is provocative
>
> k)      *Bug 22773* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22773>- Captions in image alt attributes
>
> l)        *Bug 22791*<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22791>- Alt text for charts, graphs etc should (when sensible) state what the
> graphic is
>
> m)    *Bug 23397* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23397>- Expand advice regarding the use of images for gaiji, novel currency
> symbols, and the like
>
> n)      *Bug 24001* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24001>- alt text example in wrong place
>
>
> /paulc
>
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com<faulkner.steve@gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:48 AM
> *To:* Paul Cotton
> *Cc:* public-html-a11y@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: ACTION-228 - Produce a list of the bugs relating to the
> alt guidance changes [on Steve Faulkner - due 2014-02-06]
>
>
>
> Here is the list of alt related bugs ( in no particular order)
>
> 18450 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18450> Consider
> adding a screen capture example
>
> 20402 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20402> use of title
> attribute in example is incorrect
> 20403 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20403> spec states
> plural conditions when only 1 condition is conforming
> 20405 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20405> plural
> 'conditions' used when only one condition exists
> 20401 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20401> non
> conforming use of title attribute in example code
> 8827 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827> Inappropriate
> spec text and advice where images are not known
> *Bug 10708* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708> -
> change normative alt text authoring requirements to informative advice
> *Bug 13428* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428> -
> Remove 4.8.1.1 Requirements for providing text to act as an alternative for
> images
> *Bug 20404* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20404> - more
> non conforming uses of title attribute in example code
> *Bug 21420* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21420> - note
> about conforming image is incorrect
> *Bug 9215* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215> -
> Provide a Webcam example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to "HTML5:
> Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"
> *Bug 9216* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216> -
> Provide a CAPTCHA example that is in accord with WCAG 2 or Defer to "HTML5:
> Techniques for providing useful text alternatives"
> *Bug 13728* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13728> - on
> guidance for conformance checkers about text alternatives
> *Bug 21941* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21941> -
> Spaghetti Monster reference is provocative
> *Bug 22161* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22161> -
> paragraph contains inaccuracies
> *Bug 22375* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22375> -
> Images of text where there is also an image
> *Bug 22438* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22438> - Alt
> text for an image to a home page of a web site
> *Bug 22773* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22773> -
> Captions in image alt attributes
> *Bug 22774* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22774> -
> 4.8.1.1.3 Image alts and explanations
> *Bug 22791* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22791> - Alt
> text for charts, graphs etc should (when sensible) state what the graphic
> is
> *Bug 23397* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23397> -
> Expand advice regarding the use of images for gaiji, novel currency
> symbols, and the like
> *Bug 24001* <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24001> - alt
> text example in wrong place
>
>
>    --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
>
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>
>
>
> On 12 February 2014 16:07, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/228
>
>
>
> This item was not discussed at the Feb 6 A11Y TF meeting.  Can you give an
> update?
>
>
>
> /paulc
>
>
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
>
>
>
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