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Re: My case for the obsoletion of longdesc (Was: 48-Hour Consensus Call: InstateLongdesc CP Update)

From: Leif H Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:46:51 +0200
To: "Nynorskingen-fit@twe.pe" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Cc: mjs@apple.com, jcraig@apple.com, chaals@yandex-team.ru, public-html-a11y@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org
Message-ID: <1182418678.1032277611@xn--mlform-iua.no>
May be I pointed to the incorrect bug. This bug, also mentioned by Roger, 
would be the correct one: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17450

Leif

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> Fra: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
> Til: mjs@apple.com
> Cc: jcraig@apple.com, chaals@yandex-team.ru, public-html-a11y@w3.org, 
> w3c-wai-pf@w3.org
> Sendt: 16/9/'12,  12:39
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> Maciej Stachowiak, Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:46:47 -0700:
>> On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>>
>>>  However, due to bug 22261 - "Clicking on a non-text
>>> input element does not give it focus",[1] Webkit and Chromium suffers
>>> from the following: if one opens a longdesc link (e.g. with Webkit
>>> based iCab) VoiceOver will start to read from the top of the page
>>> instead of from the section where the particular longdesc was situated. 
>>> 
>>> Something which takes away lots of flexibility with regard to longdesc. 
>>> 
>>> And, in fact, it also impacts regular links as well - it is is real
>>> hole in VoiceOver and Webkit's elegance.
>>
>> I would say this is the responsibility of the implementors of iCab,
>> not WebKit or VoiceOver. There is no native support of any kind for
>> longdesc in WebKit or in VoiceOver. iCab authors have not reported
>> any bugs indicating that they are blocked. And it is my belief that
>> iCab can handle this detail by itself.
>
> I have forwarded your view to iCab. It is true that iCab works around a
> few bugs as well as issues that the developer disagrees with. So may be
> this would be one such issue.
>
> However - and may be this was not sufficient clear in what I said
> above: I would say that that bug also affect skip-to links - and all
> links where it is important that focus is moved to the target. This
> bug, therefore, is a mayor drawback for Webkit keyboard users. 
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