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Re: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17

From: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:34:40 -0500
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>,Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Mike Smith <mike@w3.org>
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-Id: <E1PJXpn-0005gY-6p@bart.w3.org>
Just an update that we're partway through a reconstruction of the 
media subteam minutes from multiple buffers and logs.

The midnight rollover on ERCIM servers may be part of the reason that 
the minutes generation was truncated; also the rolled-over portion 
then overlapped with another accessibility task force subteam 
meeting. It looks like it may all be recoverable, just needs to be 
pieced back together and cleaned up from raw irc so it's readable.

We're pulling together what I'm hoping is the full raw log, and 
Michael Cooper is taking a turn at generating something more readable 
from that. In case anyone is particularly eager in the meantime, most 
of the content should be available through these two logs, noting 
that the Nov 18th one also runs into another meeting:
http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-irc
http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-irc
Therefore also:
http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html
http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html
with patches hopefully from this continuous log at
http://people.w3.org/mike/outgoing/html-a11y.log
which is time-stamped Tokyo time so the dates are different.

- Judy

At 08:19 AM 11/19/2010 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
>Argh. I've just looked at the file more closely. I know my minuting was
>more sparse than I wanted it to be, but I can promise you it wasn't as
>bad as the minutes indicate.
>
>I don't know what happened, or whether any of this is recoverable. I'll
>see what, if anything, I can do locally. That buffer is still open on my
>machine here.
>
>I do know that zakim dropped me several times during the call. It
>appears that the chunk remaining in the minutes is from the point where
>I last reconnected--which was, indeed, near the end of our 3.5 hour
>session.
>
>Janina
>
>Sean Hayes writes:
> > Possibly. There still seems to be a big chunk missing from the middle.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Pfeiffer
> > Sent: 19 November 2010 00:52
> > To: Paul Cotton
> > Cc: Janina Sajka; HTML Accessibility Task Force
> > Subject: Re: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17
> >
> > I just found these as the first part of the minutes:
> > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html - maybe the 
> minute taking was separated at midnight European time.
> > Cheers,
> > Silvia.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Cotton 
> <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > These minutes appear to be VERY short for a MEGA telecom.  Are 
> these the only notes that were taken?
> > >
> > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > > Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org
> > > [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:35 PM
> > > To: HTML Accessibility Task Force
> > > Subject: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17
> > >
> > > November
> > > Reply-To:
> > > X-Operating-System: Linux sonata.rednote.net
> > > 2.6.35.6-48.spk.fc14.x86_64
> > > X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html
> > > Minutes from today's HTML-A11Y Task Force Media Subteam 
> teleconference are given in text below, and are available as html at:
> > > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html
> > >
> > >
> > >   W3C
> > >
> > >                                                           - DRAFT -
> > >
> > >
> > > SV_MEETING_TITLE
> > >
> > > 17 Nov 2010
> > >
> > > Attendees
> > >
> > >   Present
> > >          Janina, John_Foliot, Geoff_Freed, silvia, Sean_Hayes, Judy,
> > > Kenny_Johar, Plh
> > >
> > >   Regrets
> > >   Chair
> > >          SV_MEETING_CHAIR
> > >
> > >   Scribe
> > >          janina
> > >
> > > Contents
> > >
> > >     * Topics
> > >     * Summary of Action Items
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > ____________________________________________
> > >
> > >   cc-14 ttml=yes; websrt=css??
> > >
> > >   Silvia to clarify with example
> > >
> > >   cc-16/17 ttml=yes; websrt=no
> > >
> > >   <silvia> cc-15 tml=yes; websrt=yes
> > >
> > >   cc-18 ttml=yes, via namespace, -- frowned on
> > >
> > >   <silvia> websrt=yes
> > >
> > >   cc-27 more difficult in xml; but is being done
> > >
> > >   Silvia: has been raised as an issue
> > >
> > >   ecc-1 more complex in websrt
> > >
> > >   jf: important in educational settings, specifically dublin core
> > >
> > >   pp-2 ttml=yes; websrt=no
> > >
> > >   jf: seem two big differences--structural nav and text rendering;
> > > also metadata
> > >
> > >   <Sean> paper talking about XML encoding and streaming
> > > http://www.bayardo.org/ps/www04.pdf
> > >
> > >   <plh> time will be 5pm ET in two weeks
> > >
> > > Summary of Action Items
> > >
> > >   [End of minutes]
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > ____________________________________________
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
> > >                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
> > >
> > > Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org Linux 
> Foundation
> > > http://a11y.org
> > >
> > > Chair, Protocols & Formats
> > > Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide
> > > Web Consortium (W3C)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>--
>
>Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>                 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>
>Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
>Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org
>
>Chair, Protocols & Formats
>Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
Received on Friday, 19 November 2010 20:45:29 GMT

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