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RE: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17

From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:13:31 -0800 (PST)
To: "'Judy Brewer'" <jbrewer@w3.org>, "'Janina Sajka'" <janina@rednote.net>, "'Silvia Pfeiffer'" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, "'Sean Hayes'" <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, "'Paul Cotton'" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "'Michael Cooper'" <cooper@w3.org>, "'Mike Smith'" <mike@w3.org>
Cc: "'HTML Accessibility Task Force'" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00db01cb882e$9e7d5c40$db7814c0$@edu>
Thanks for the update Judy, and thanks Michael for your stitching efforts.

Cheers!

JF

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-a11y-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Judy Brewer
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:35 PM
> To: Janina Sajka; Silvia Pfeiffer; Sean Hayes; Paul Cotton; Michael
> Cooper; Mike Smith
> Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
> Subject: Re: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17
> 
> Just an update that we're partway through a reconstruction of the
> media subteam minutes from multiple buffers and logs.
> 
> The midnight rollover on ERCIM servers may be part of the reason that
> the minutes generation was truncated; also the rolled-over portion
> then overlapped with another accessibility task force subteam
> meeting. It looks like it may all be recoverable, just needs to be
> pieced back together and cleaned up from raw irc so it's readable.
> 
> We're pulling together what I'm hoping is the full raw log, and
> Michael Cooper is taking a turn at generating something more readable
> from that. In case anyone is particularly eager in the meantime, most
> of the content should be available through these two logs, noting
> that the Nov 18th one also runs into another meeting:
> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-irc
> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-irc
> Therefore also:
> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html
> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html
> with patches hopefully from this continuous log at
> http://people.w3.org/mike/outgoing/html-a11y.log
> which is time-stamped Tokyo time so the dates are different.
> 
> - Judy
> 
> At 08:19 AM 11/19/2010 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> >Argh. I've just looked at the file more closely. I know my minuting
> was
> >more sparse than I wanted it to be, but I can promise you it wasn't as
> >bad as the minutes indicate.
> >
> >I don't know what happened, or whether any of this is recoverable.
> I'll
> >see what, if anything, I can do locally. That buffer is still open on
> my
> >machine here.
> >
> >I do know that zakim dropped me several times during the call. It
> >appears that the chunk remaining in the minutes is from the point
> where
> >I last reconnected--which was, indeed, near the end of our 3.5 hour
> >session.
> >
> >Janina
> >
> >Sean Hayes writes:
> > > Possibly. There still seems to be a big chunk missing from the
> middle.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Pfeiffer
> > > Sent: 19 November 2010 00:52
> > > To: Paul Cotton
> > > Cc: Janina Sajka; HTML Accessibility Task Force
> > > Subject: Re: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday
> 17
> > >
> > > I just found these as the first part of the minutes:
> > > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-html-a11y-minutes.html - maybe the
> > minute taking was separated at midnight European time.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Silvia.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Cotton
> > <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > These minutes appear to be VERY short for a MEGA telecom.  Are
> > these the only notes that were taken?
> > > >
> > > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > > > Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org
> > > > [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Janina
> Sajka
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:35 PM
> > > > To: HTML Accessibility Task Force
> > > > Subject: Minutes from Media Subteam Mega-Telecon on Wednesday 17
> > > >
> > > > November
> > > > Reply-To:
> > > > X-Operating-System: Linux sonata.rednote.net
> > > > 2.6.35.6-48.spk.fc14.x86_64
> > > > X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html
> > > > Minutes from today's HTML-A11Y Task Force Media Subteam
> > teleconference are given in text below, and are available as html at:
> > > > http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-html-a11y-minutes.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   W3C
> > > >
> > > >                                                           - DRAFT
> -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SV_MEETING_TITLE
> > > >
> > > > 17 Nov 2010
> > > >
> > > > Attendees
> > > >
> > > >   Present
> > > >          Janina, John_Foliot, Geoff_Freed, silvia, Sean_Hayes,
> Judy,
> > > > Kenny_Johar, Plh
> > > >
> > > >   Regrets
> > > >   Chair
> > > >          SV_MEETING_CHAIR
> > > >
> > > >   Scribe
> > > >          janina
> > > >
> > > > Contents
> > > >
> > > >     * Topics
> > > >     * Summary of Action Items
> > > >
> > > >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >   cc-14 ttml=yes; websrt=css??
> > > >
> > > >   Silvia to clarify with example
> > > >
> > > >   cc-16/17 ttml=yes; websrt=no
> > > >
> > > >   <silvia> cc-15 tml=yes; websrt=yes
> > > >
> > > >   cc-18 ttml=yes, via namespace, -- frowned on
> > > >
> > > >   <silvia> websrt=yes
> > > >
> > > >   cc-27 more difficult in xml; but is being done
> > > >
> > > >   Silvia: has been raised as an issue
> > > >
> > > >   ecc-1 more complex in websrt
> > > >
> > > >   jf: important in educational settings, specifically dublin core
> > > >
> > > >   pp-2 ttml=yes; websrt=no
> > > >
> > > >   jf: seem two big differences--structural nav and text
> rendering;
> > > > also metadata
> > > >
> > > >   <Sean> paper talking about XML encoding and streaming
> > > > http://www.bayardo.org/ps/www04.pdf
> > > >
> > > >   <plh> time will be 5pm ET in two weeks
> > > >
> > > > Summary of Action Items
> > > >
> > > >   [End of minutes]
> > > >
> > > >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
> > > >                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
> > > >
> > > > Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org Linux
> > Foundation
> > > > http://a11y.org
> > > >
> > > > Chair, Protocols & Formats
> > > > Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World
> Wide
> > > > Web Consortium (W3C)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
> >                 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
> >
> >Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
> >Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org
> >
> >Chair, Protocols & Formats
> >Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
> >World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> 
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