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Re: FW: ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for Counter-Proposals

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:51:01 +0000
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, "Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20101105084648.M88354@hicom.net>
aloha, paul!

what we need for disposition of issue 180 is to remove the lady of 
shallott example out from:

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/embedded-content-1.html#the-img-element

which directly follows the following prose:

QUOTE 
Examples where the image is purely decorative despite being relevant 
would include things like a photo of the Black Rock City landscape in 
a blog post about an event at Burning Man, or an image of a painting 
inspired by a poem, on a page reciting that poem. The following snippet
shows an example of the latter case:
UNQUOTE

steps:

1. remove the phrase "or an image of a painting inspired by a poem, on 
a page reciting that poem"

2. replace the current (lady of shallott) example with an code sample
illustrating one of the other prose examples that hixie cites in the
paragraph introducing the example, such as a blog of Black Rock City
that uses a picture of the city's skyline as a purely decorative 
element of a blog

gregory.
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
To: "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)"
<janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>,
"Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
Sent: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:44:28 +0000
Subject: FW: ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for  
Counter-Proposals

> At today's Accessibility review session, we decided to bring 
> this item directly to the attention of the A11Y TF so that it 
> could be discussed on the A11Y TF list and so that this 
> discussion could be added to the TF meeting on Nov 11.
> 
> Note the following dated item:
> 
> > Therefore, please submit counter-proposals, alternate proposals and
revised proposals for this issue by November 27, with the understanding
that it applies to all HTML WG publications.
> 
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Maciej Stachowiak Sent: Wednesday,
>  October 27, 2010 2:12 PM To: Sam Ruby Cc: HTMLWG WG Subject: 
> ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for 
> Counter-Proposals
> 
> After further discussion, the Chairs thing it would make more 
> sense to expand this issue to apply to all WG deliverables,
>  including the HTML5 draft. This raises a few issues:
> 
> 1) This was not duly indicated to the WG in advance. So we're 
> not going to hold to the call for consensus.
> 
> 2) The Change Proposal submitted does not express the relevant 
> changes to the HTML5 draft, it only gives detail for the alt-
> requirements draft. Therefore it needs to be revised.
> 
> 3) Since the null change proposal would, upon updating, call for 
> a change, we expect there will be new interest in writing 
> counter-proposals.
> 
> Therefore, please submit counter-proposals, alternate proposals 
> and revised proposals for this issue by November 27, with the 
> understanding that it applies to all HTML WG publications.
> 
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
> 
> Regards,
> Maciej
> 
> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> 
> > Current status is that we have had a call for proposals:
> > 
> >  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0182.html
> > 
> > We received a null change proposal:
> > 
> >  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0182.html
> > 
> > And we have received an indication that the original proposer does not
have the time to pursue this:
> > 
> >  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9077#c8
> > 
> > If there are no objections, we will close ISSUE-122 on October 28th.
> > 
> > - Sam Ruby
> >
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