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Re: FW: ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for Counter-Proposals

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:02:58 +0000
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, "Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20101105090159.M25435@hicom.net>
aloha, again!

i mistyped:

> what we need for disposition of issue 180

when i should have referred to issue 122

apologies for any confusion, gregory

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org"
<public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)"
<janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>,
"Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
Sent: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:51:01 +0000
Subject: Re: FW: ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for
  Counter-Proposals

> aloha, paul!
> 
> what we need for disposition of issue 180 is to remove the lady 
> of shallott example out from:
> 
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/embedded-content-1.html#the-img-element
> 
> which directly follows the following prose:
> 
> QUOTE 
> Examples where the image is purely decorative despite being 
> relevant would include things like a photo of the Black Rock 
> City landscape in a blog post about an event at Burning Man, or 
> an image of a painting inspired by a poem, on a page reciting 
> that poem. The following snippet shows an example of the latter case:
> UNQUOTE
> 
> steps:
> 
> 1. remove the phrase "or an image of a painting inspired by a 
> poem, on a page reciting that poem"
> 
> 2. replace the current (lady of shallott) example with an code sample
> illustrating one of the other prose examples that hixie cites in 
> the paragraph introducing the example, such as a blog of Black 
> Rock City that uses a picture of the city's skyline as a purely 
> decorative element of a blog
> 
> gregory.
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
> To: "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
> Cc: "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)"
> <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" 
> <mike@w3.org>, "Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
> Sent: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:44:28 +0000 Subject: FW: ISSUE-122 
> (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for  Counter-Proposals
> 
> > At today's Accessibility review session, we decided to bring 
> > this item directly to the attention of the A11Y TF so that it 
> > could be discussed on the A11Y TF list and so that this 
> > discussion could be added to the TF meeting on Nov 11.
> > 
> > Note the following dated item:
> > 
> > > Therefore, please submit counter-proposals, alternate proposals and
> revised proposals for this issue by November 27, with the understanding
> that it applies to all HTML WG publications.
> > 
> > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-
> > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Maciej Stachowiak Sent: Wednesday,
> >  October 27, 2010 2:12 PM To: Sam Ruby Cc: HTMLWG WG Subject: 
> > ISSUE-122 (shalott-example) - Expanded scope and Call for 
> > Counter-Proposals
> > 
> > After further discussion, the Chairs thing it would make more 
> > sense to expand this issue to apply to all WG deliverables,
> >  including the HTML5 draft. This raises a few issues:
> > 
> > 1) This was not duly indicated to the WG in advance. So we're 
> > not going to hold to the call for consensus.
> > 
> > 2) The Change Proposal submitted does not express the relevant 
> > changes to the HTML5 draft, it only gives detail for the alt-
> > requirements draft. Therefore it needs to be revised.
> > 
> > 3) Since the null change proposal would, upon updating, call for 
> > a change, we expect there will be new interest in writing 
> > counter-proposals.
> > 
> > Therefore, please submit counter-proposals, alternate proposals 
> > and revised proposals for this issue by November 27, with the 
> > understanding that it applies to all HTML WG publications.
> > 
> > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Maciej
> > 
> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > 
> > > Current status is that we have had a call for proposals:
> > > 
> > >  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0182.html
> > > 
> > > We received a null change proposal:
> > > 
> > >  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0182.html
> > > 
> > > And we have received an indication that the original proposer does not
> have the time to pursue this:
> > > 
> > >  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9077#c8
> > > 
> > > If there are no objections, we will close ISSUE-122 on October 28th.
> > > 
> > > - Sam Ruby
> > >
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