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Re: Media Gaps Document--36 Hour Consensus Call

From: Eric Carlson <eric.carlson@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:53:39 -0800
Cc: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Frank Olivier <Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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To: Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>

On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:

> I think "widely used" was a fair assessment for SRT. All professional
> entities that I've known that use other formats are usually also
> capable of using SRT because it's so simple. Just saying "is
> implemented in some sectors of the Web-development community" is
> unfair because there are many professional entities that use it, too.
> They make no big fuss about it, but they support it. SRT support is
> more commonly found than TTML and I would therefore object to any
> representation that tries to imply the opposite.
> 
  I agree! SRT is one of the formats that YouTube recommends people use when uploading captions that are not already formatted [1]:

If you do not have formatted caption data, such as a transcript that does not have timing data, we recommend using SubRip (*.SRT) or SubViewer (*.SUB) for generating formatted captions.

eric

1 - http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/2.0/developers_guide_protocol_captions.html.


> Silvia.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I made another pass through the overview document with the new non-political approach in mind.  Among other edits, I removed the "widely used" references to SRT because that's more a matter of opinion, I think.  I also did a general grammar sweep, tidied up some inconsistent terminology and conformed some language.
>> 
>> I can't add this to the chart but I've heard a rumor of a new TTML implementation, this time by a major US entity.  I'm trying to establish if it's true or false; will let you know what I find.
>> 
>> Geoff/NCAM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Silvia Pfeiffer [silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:01 PM
>> To: Geoff Freed; Sean Hayes; Frank Olivier; Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
>> Subject: Re: Media Gaps Document--36 Hour Consensus Call
>> 
>> Actually, we should use the following link as discussed in the meeting:
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/TextFormat_Comparison_Overview
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Silvia.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>>> Dear Media Subteam Colleagues:
>>> 
>>> Our teleconference today, 15 December, was devoted almost entirely to
>>> cleaning up our language usage in our Formats Comparison document. We
>>> felt the need to avoid any emotional or prejudicial language in this
>>> document. We believe we've achieved this, but the document is now
>>> rather different from that which we looked at last week.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, as determined at today's call minuted at:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2010/12/15-html-a11y-minutes.html,
>>> we are calling for any objections to moving this analysis document
>>> forward to the HTML WG be registered as responses to this email no later
>>> than 12 Noon Boston Time, this coming Friday 17 December (17:00 UTC).
>>> 
>>> The document can be found at:
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/TextFormat_Pros_Cons_Overview#Summary_o
>>> 
>>> Is this document now ready to forward to the HTML WG?
>>> 
>>> We are particularly eager to hear from Sean, Frank, and/or Geoff, as you
>>> all have helped create this document.
>>> 
>>> Special request to Sean: If we have mischaracterized your view of TTML,
>>> if you do, in fact, believe that all our User Requirements require is
>>> available in TTML as currently specified, please identify the specific
>>> profile you believe suffices by correct name and URI, and please
>>> indicate whether this should include the voluntary as well as the
>>> mandatory sections. Our text until today referred to the "basic
>>> profile," but there's not actually a profile called "basic" named at the
>>> TTML page--therefore the request to specify precisely which one is
>>> meant.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for helping conclude this analysis before our end of year
>>> hiatus.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>>>                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>> 
>>> Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
>>> Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org
>>> 
>>> Chair, Protocols & Formats
>>> Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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