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Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

From: Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:45:06 +0200 (CEST)
To: Christophe Dupriez <christophe.dupriez@destin.be>
Cc: Simon Cox <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, holger@topquadrant.com, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Message-ID: <3dfd69b3-b78a-4acc-8882-78792127e6e8@zcs>
Hi Christophe, 

thank you for this first step, 
we should also consider to make references to 
http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/ 

maybe also ask the people who work on this if they 
would like to participate in our specific SKOS related initiative. 

Anyone else (who provides SKOS tools) interested? 

Regards, 
Andreas 

----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----

> Von: "Christophe Dupriez" <christophe.dupriez@destin.be>
> An: "Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)"
> <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
> CC: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, holger@topquadrant.com,
> public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 23:49:00
> Betreff: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies matter?"

> Hi Andreas,

> For you and all people interested, I created the following page in
> the SKOS wiki:
> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS_Repository_REST_http_API
> No specs for the moment but I will base my contribution on the model
> of the DSpace REST API:
> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/REST+API

> Have a nice evening!

> Christophe

> Le 27/06/2011 14:06, Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) a écrit
> :
> > Hi Christophe,
> 

> > this is great, and I agree that we should stick to SKOS
> > terminology.
> 

> > Regards,
> 
> > Andreas
> 

> > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> 

> > > Von: "Christophe Dupriez" <christophe.dupriez@destin.be>
> > 
> 
> > > An: "Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)"
> > > <a.blumauer@semantic-web.at>
> > 
> 
> > > CC: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> , holger@topquadrant.com ,
> > > public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 10:43:41
> > 
> 
> > > Betreff: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies
> > > matter?"
> > 
> 

> > > Hi Andreas,
> > 
> 

> > > I am definitively willing to implement this kind of "shortcuts"
> > > in
> > 
> 
> > > ASKOSI.org
> > 
> 

> > > We must then also standardize the structured result formats
> > 
> 
> > > (RDF, JSON : SparQL results? Which columns are included in the
> > > result?)
> > 
> 
> > > ... and respect REST API principles ...
> > 
> 

> > > I would also prefer to avoid "all" and stick to SKOS terminology:
> > 
> 
> > > http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/narrower
> > 
> 

> > > Have a nice day!
> > 
> 

> > > Christophe
> > 
> 

> > > Le 27/06/2011 10:19, Andreas Blumauer (Semantic Web Company) a
> > > écrit
> > > :
> > 
> 
> > > > Same with PoolParty Thesaurus Management [1]:
> > 
> 
> > > > We provide "stored procedures" and can offer a variety of
> > > > pre-defined SPARQL queries,
> > 
> 
> > > > which can execute queries mentioned by Simon.
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > But this is not enough: If developers could execute at any
> > > > SPARQL
> > > > endpoint, e.g. [2]
> > 
> 
> > > > queries like
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb/allConceptSchemes
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > or for any given concept, e.g. [3]
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > queries like
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allNarrowers
> > 
> 
> > > > http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131/allRelateds/prefLabel=
> > > > "foo"
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > in a STANDARDIZED way, then developers don´t have to care about
> > > > anymore
> > 
> 
> > > > if the underlying technology is PoolParty, TopBraid or
> > > > something
> > > > else AND
> > 
> 
> > > > they don´t have to learn Sparql but rather could concentrate on
> > > > a
> > > > vocabulary´s inherent scheme& logic,
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > and exactly this is necessary to get things going also for
> > > > non-SemWebber in my opinion.
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > If anyone is interested in defining such queries, please let me
> > > > know!
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > Cheers,
> > 
> 
> > > > Andreas
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > [1] http://poolparty.punkt.at/
> > 
> 
> > > > [2] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/PoolParty/sparql/semweb
> > 
> 
> > > > [3] http://vocabulary.semantic-web.at/semweb/131
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > 
> 
> > > >> Von: "Simon Cox" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
> > 
> 
> > > >> An: holger@topquadrant.com , public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juni 2011 04:49:38
> > 
> 
> > > >> Betreff: RE: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies
> > > >> matter?"
> > 
> 
> > > >> E.g.
> > 
> 
> > > >> 1. Get concept (all triples with concept as subject or object
> > > >> -
> > 
> 
> > > >> DESCRIBE) with prefLabel = “foo”
> > 
> 
> > > >> 2. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo”
> > 
> 
> > > >> 3. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all narrower
> > > >> concepts
> > 
> 
> > > >> 4. Get concept http://example.org/bar and all broader concepts
> > 
> 
> > > >> 5. Get concept with prefLabel in Fonglish = “foo” and all
> > > >> narrower
> > 
> 
> > > >> concepts
> > 
> 
> > > >> 6. Etc ...
> > 
> 
> > > >> i.e. pre-rolled queries which use the SKOS properties.
> > 
> 
> > > >> Reusable SPARQL queries might be part of a solution.
> > 
> 
> > > >> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > >> [ mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org ] On Behalf Of Holger
> > 
> 
> > > >> Knublauch
> > 
> 
> > > >> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 9:11 AM
> > 
> 
> > > >> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > >> Subject: Re: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies
> > > >> matter?"
> > 
> 
> > > >> What aspects of SPARQL would such a standard layer include? We
> > > >> and
> > 
> 
> > > >> our customers are heavily using SPARQL in the context of SKOS,
> > > >> and
> > 
> 
> > > >> we have published a SPARQL-based constraint checking library
> > > >> [1]
> > 
> 
> > > >> using the W3C Member Submission SPIN [2]. This will validate
> > > >> the
> > 
> 
> > > >> various SKOS-specific integrity constraints and has been
> > > >> integrated
> > 
> 
> > > >> with TopQuadrant's Enterprise Vocabulary Net (EVN) solution
> > > >> [3].
> > 
> 
> > > >> SPIN also makes it easy to encapsulate reusable SPARQL queries
> > > >> into
> > 
> 
> > > >> so-called templates. These templates are basically
> > > >> parameterized
> > 
> 
> > > >> queries that have a URI and arguments. Compare to stored
> > > >> procedures
> > 
> 
> > > >> in SQL. It would be straight-forward to build and publish such
> > > >> a
> > 
> 
> > > >> template library for SKOS, if someone here has a list of
> > > >> queries
> > 
> 
> > > >> that they like to ask repeatedly.
> > 
> 
> > > >> Cheers,
> > 
> 
> > > >> Holger
> > 
> 
> > > >> [1] http://topbraid.org/spin/skosspin
> > 
> 
> > > >> [2] http://spinrdf.org/
> > 
> 
> > > >> [3] http://www.topquadrant.com/solutions/ent_vocab_net.html
> > 
> 
> > > >> On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM,< Simon.Cox@csiro.au > wrote:
> > 
> 
> > > >> “ a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially designed
> > > >> for
> > 
> 
> > > >> SKOS based systems
> > 
> 
> > > >> might help in this situation. ”
> > 
> 
> > > >> +1
> > 
> 
> > > >> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > >> [ mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org ] On Behalf Of Andreas
> > 
> 
> > > >> Blumauer (Semantic Web Company)
> > 
> 
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 4:36 PM
> > 
> 
> > > >> To: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> > 
> 
> > > >> Subject: Results of survey "Do controlled vocabularies
> > > >> matter?"
> > 
> 
> > > >> Hello all,
> > 
> 
> > > >> we are happy to announce that the results of the survey titled
> > 
> 
> > > >> "Do controlled vocabularies matter?" are available now.
> > 
> 
> > > >> A short write-up and also the link to the report can be found
> > > >> here:
> > 
> 
> > > >> http://blog.semantic-web.at/2011/06/26/thesaurus-based-search-engines-will-become-main-stream-in-the-near-future/
> > 
> 
> > > >> The report itself was published on issuu:
> > 
> 
> > > >> http://issuu.com/andreas_blumauer/docs/survey_do_controlled_vocabularies_matter_2011_june
> > 
> 
> > > >> We would be happy to receive comments from the community on
> > > >> this.
> > 
> 
> > > >> As an interesting outcome it can be stated, that people
> > > >> working
> > > >> on
> > 
> 
> > > >> controlled vocabularies
> > 
> 
> > > >> seem to have put aside scepticism about the semantic web
> > > >> finally.
> > 
> 
> > > >> On the other side the whole semantic web cake has not been
> > > >> digested
> > 
> 
> > > >> yet:
> > 
> 
> > > >> E.g. only a few people from the vocab-community deal with
> > > >> Sparql,
> > 
> 
> > > >> which brings me to the conclusion
> > 
> 
> > > >> that a "standard" layer encapsulating Sparql especially
> > > >> designed
> > > >> for
> > 
> 
> > > >> SKOS based systems
> > 
> 
> > > >> might help in this situation.
> > 
> 
> > > >> Any activities going on in this area?
> > 
> 
> > > >> Best wishes,
> > 
> 
> > > >> Andreas
> > 
> 
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