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Re: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:15:36 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <1356113736.36274.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>, 'Cory Casanave' <cory-c@modeldriven.com>, 'Owen Ambur' <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>, 'egov-ig mailing list' <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Cory, Brand, et. al.

As Daniel Bennett remarked at one point on the last Conference Call, "sounds like a job for XSLT".  Yup.

As a practical matter, UTF-8 (used to comit legislation and regulations to paper) has some pictographs/icons which have structure and meaning, in some cases, different from hyperlink usesage.  An example is the Commercial At Symbol (@) ... it means the value of a unit quantity in a Bill of Materials or is a component in an email address.  These should be automagically transformed with XSLT rather than "marked up".  There are other suggestions[1].

Note: the XSLT also passes along any other Unicodes over U+00A0, so that Place Names with diacritics are unaffected. 
 

snip this and view in a browser ...

<result-text xml:space="preserve" xml:lang="en" typeof="stratml:PerformancePlanOrReport" xmlns="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt#">

eGov Marks
..........

Commercial At Mark  : &#x0040;    Commercial At Mark  :  [ "Commercial At Mark", "U+0040", "&#x0026;#x0040;", "Unit", "Value" ] 

Currency            : &#x00A4;    Currency            :  [ "Currency Mark", "U+00A4", "&#x0026;#x00A4;", "Symbol", "Value" ] 

Section             : &#x00A7;    Section             :  [ "Section", "U+00A7", "&#x0026;#x00A7;", "Document" ] 

Copyright           : &#x00A9;    Copyright           :  [ "Copyright Mark", "U+00A9", "&#x0026;#x00A9;", "Year", "Organization" ] 

Registered          : &#x00AE;    Registered          :  [ "Registered Mark", "U+00AE", "&#x0026;#x00AE;", "Organization" ] 

Paragraph           : &#x00B6;    Paragraph           :  [ "Paragraph", "U+00B6;", "&#x0026;#x00B6;", "Document" ] 

Trademark           : &#x2122;    Trademark           :  [ "Trademark", "U+2122", "&#x0026;#x2122;", "Organization" ] 

Service Mark        : &#x2120;    Service Mark        :  [ "Service Mark", "U+2120", "&#x0026;#x2120;", "Organization" ] 

Audio Copyright     : &#x2117;    Audio Copyright     :  [ "Audio Copyright Mark", "U+2117", "&#x0026;#x2117;", "Year", "Organization" ] 

  </result-text>

--Gannon


[1] http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2100.pdf


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 From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>
To: 'Cory Casanave' <cory-c@modeldriven.com>; 'Owen Ambur' <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; 'egov-ig mailing list' <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding
 

Cory, Okay, so there are a finite number of strategies and you have people that like to mark them up manually. But do Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. that use  Hadoop use NIEM? NO!
 
I am preparing briefings for Congress and the Japanese Government and I do not see that NIEM is used in either big data or open government data.
 
Looking at David Webber’s work, I could conclude that Oracle may be a larger and better implementor of NIEM than “NIEM” itself!
 
Brand
 
Dr. Brand Niemann
Director and Senior Data Scientist
Semantic Community
http://semanticommunity.info 
http://gov.aol.com/bloggers/brand-niemann/ 
703-268-9314
 
From:Cory Casanave [mailto:cory-c@modeldriven.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:26 AM
To: Brand Niemann; 'Owen Ambur'; 'egov-ig mailing list'
Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding
 
Brand,
Re: I do not see any mention of “Big Data” in either NIEM or StratML. Will they apply or scale to “Big Data”?
 
I don’t see how it applies. NIEM is for information sharing, the repositories of information shared may certainly be “big data” but you would share only a portion – for that portion, NIEM is fine. So yes, this should architecturally scale to sharing “big data” information since it is orthogonal.  The underlying logical model may also be fine as a schema of the “big data” but that is not its design intent.
 
As for StratML, it is for strategies – how many strategies do you expect to have? This doesn’t seem like a big data thing either.
 
Big data technologies certainly have a place but let’s not try to apply the latest craze to everything.
 
-Cory
 
From:Brand Niemann [mailto:bniemann@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:47 AM
To: 'Owen Ambur'; 'egov-ig mailing list'
Subject: RE: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding
 
I do not see any mention of “Big Data” in either NIEM or StratML. Will they apply or scale to “Big Data”?
 
From:Owen Ambur [mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:43 PM
To: 'egov-ig mailing list'
Subject: National Strategy for Information Sharing & Safeguarding
 
The recently issued National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding is now available in StratML Part 1, Strategic Plan, format at http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#NSISS 
 
It would be good if the implementation plan were to be published in open, standard, machine-readable StratML Part 2, Performance Plan/Report, format with designated roles and clearly specified performance indicators.

Doing so would be consistent with the provisions of section 10 of the GPRA Modernization Act (GPRAMA) as well as OMB Circular A-119. http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxml%2Egov%2Fstratml%2Freferences%2FPL111-532StratML%2Ehtm%23SEC10&urlhash=V3md&_t=tracking_disc & http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewhitehouse%2Egov%2Fomb%2Fcirculars_a119%236&urlhash=Dmb0&_t=tracking_disc
 
Owen
 
From:messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com [mailto:messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com] On Behalf Of National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) Group Members
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Owen Ambur
Subject: [1] discussion on LinkedIn
 
     
National Information Exchange Model (NIEM)      
     
 
  
 
   
       December 20, 2012  
 
   
 
  
New Discussions (1) 
  
 
Are you ready for more #NIEM? Check out the National Strategy for Information Sharing and Safeguarding signed by the President. 
  
Started by Donna Roy, Experienced technology innovator with data and information focus.     
Received on Friday, 21 December 2012 18:16:05 GMT

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