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Re: applications and vocabularies enabling public debates

From: Jose M. Alonso <josema@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:53:57 +0200
Cc: box1_price@debategraph.org, Vassilios Peristeras <vassilios.peristeras@deri.org>, eGovIG <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, david@debategraph.org, john.breslin@nuigalway.ie, siegfried.handschuh@deri.org, John Sheridan <John.Sheridan@nationalarchives.gsi.gov.uk>, Oscar Azanon <oscar.azanon@vitruviosistemas.com>
Message-Id: <534B1E17-9A7A-42FC-92FC-62EB173E6857@w3.org>
To: Luigi Selmi <selmi_luigi@hotmail.com>
Hi Luigi, all,

Sorry for reacting so late to this. I've created ISSUE-22 and  
attaching this one to it.
I think this is also related to interoperability, so also attaching to  
ISSUE-21.
Copying John and Oscar as main authors of those sections to lead the  
discussion and see how this could fit in the doc. I'm personally all  
for adding as much useful examples as possible.

Best,
Jose.


El 01/04/2009, a las 16:35, Luigi Selmi escribió:

> Hi David and All,
> It would be very interesting having a look of the public ontology  
> that you use or could implement based on your data model. I didn't  
> find any document about that ontology on the Debategraph site. Are  
> you going to implement it ? And in which language RDFS, OWL ? Do you  
> have any plan to set up a SPARQL endpoint other than the API in  
> order to make queries over the maps?
>
>
> Luigi
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> CC: selmi_luigi@hotmail.com; public-egov-ig@w3.org; david@debategraph.org 
> ; john.breslin@nuigalway.ie;siegfried.handschuh@deri.org
> From: box1_price@debategraph.org
> To: vassilios.peristeras@deri.org
> Subject: Re: applications and vocabularies enabling public debates
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:15:03 +0100
>
> Thanks, Vassilios and Luigi.
>
> A couple of quick updates:
>
> (1) We are working on an API to open up the public maps - and I  
> would welcome feedback from the group on any specific  
> characteristics / features you would like to see with / from the API.
>
> (2) It is straightforward for us to implement different ontologies  
> in Debategraph (in addition to the public one we have three more  
> operating behind the scenes - as part of our internal architecture).  
> So if anyone is interested in experimenting with this, let me know.  
> We plan to add a UI soon to allow you to define and implement your  
> own ontologies directly via the web.
>
> Finally, if anyone is D.C. based and would like to meet, I'll be in  
> Washington towards the end of this month.
>
> David
>
>
> David Price
> Co-founder
> Debategraph
> Tel: +44 (0) 20 8144 2860
> Web: debategraph.org
> Blog: opentopersuasion.com
> Twitter: twitter.com/debategraph
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> On 1 Apr 2009, at 12:26, "Peristeras, Vassilios" <vassilios.peristeras@deri.org 
> > wrote:
>
> Hello Luigi, all.
>
> I think that Obama’s administration takes steps in fast pace towards  
> semantics.
> OMB and GSA chief architects talk about semantics and vocabularies,  
> explicitly mentioning SIOC (see links below).
> SIOC was developed by John Breslin’s team in NUIG/DERI, Galway  
> (happy about this ;-)
> We currently work with debategraph in the WAVE project and try to  
> see how we could link semantics to arguments visualization tools.  
> The idea is to create a SIOC-Opinion extension.
> If the group has an interest on this, we could provide some relevant  
> info or even a use case if it is not too late.
> I cc David Price from debategraph and some colleagues from DERI.
>
> Best regards,
> Vassilios
>
> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/03/19/obama-groundbreaking-use-semantic-web/
> http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/recoverygov-1118057
> http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/recoverygov-1118057/8
> http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/transparency-transformation-presentation/5
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> From: public-egov-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:public-egov-ig-request@w3.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Luigi Selmi
> Sent: 01 April 2009 13:28
> To: public-egov-ig@w3.org
> Subject: applications and vocabularies enabling public debates
>
> Hi All,
> I think participation and C2G lack some explanations. Participation  
> can be viewed in very different ways. People can interact directly  
> with the government or between them in order to build a consensus  
> around a position that can be voted and proposed to the government.  
> The first way can lead to a form of populism, the second way is what  
> is generally viewed as a better and democratic kind of  
> participation. Participation on the Web means doing public debates  
> on line. On a debate people should be able to raise issues, write  
> positions or arguments, post links to articles, blog post, videos.  
> All these data must be interoperable. Debategraph [1] is a good  
> example of an on line application that enable participation.  
> Unfortunately it's not possible to have the ontology/vocabulary or a  
> kind of data model and no bulk download of the data. It would be  
> useful to point in the document to some vocabulary that could  
> support participation like SIOC [2] and maybe SWAN [3]. An article  
> that can be put as a reference about debates and argumentation is  
> "Mass argumentation and the semantic web" [4].
>
>
> Luigi
>
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> [1] http://debategraph.org/
> [2] http://sioc-project.org/
> [3] http://swan.mindinformatics.org/
> [4] http://www.websemanticsjournal.org/papers/2007119/MassArgumentationRahwanV6I1.pdf
>
> "A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step." Lao Tzu
> _______________________________
> Luigi Selmi, MSc
> addr.: 12 P.zza Roselle 00179 Rome, Italy
> skype: luigiselmi
> mobile: 3482405674
> web site: http://www.sharesemantics.com
> blog: http://www.sharesemantics.com/people/weblog
> cv: http://www.linkedin.com/in/luigiselmi
>
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