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RE: applications and vocabularies enabling public debates

From: Luigi Selmi <selmi_luigi@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:35:38 +0200
Message-ID: <BAY101-W11AAC29ED253F511CDA213908B0@phx.gbl>
To: <box1_price@debategraph.org>, <vassilios.peristeras@deri.org>
CC: eGovIG <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, <david@debategraph.org>, <john.breslin@nuigalway.ie>, <siegfried.handschuh@deri.org>

Hi David and All,
It would be very interesting having a look of the public ontology that you use or could implement based on your data model. I didn't find any document about that ontology on the Debategraph site. Are you going to implement it ? And in which language RDFS, OWL ? Do you have any plan to set up a SPARQL endpoint other than the API in order to make queries over the maps? 


Luigi






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From: box1_price@debategraph.org
To: vassilios.peristeras@deri.org
Subject: Re: applications and vocabularies enabling public debates
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:15:03 +0100

Thanks, Vassilios and Luigi.  A couple of quick updates:
(1) We are working on an API to open up the public maps - and I would welcome feedback from the group on any specific characteristics / features you would like to see with / from the API.
(2) It is straightforward for us to implement different ontologies in Debategraph (in addition to the public one we have three more operating behind the scenes - as part of our internal architecture). So if anyone is interested in experimenting with this, let me know. We plan to add a UI soon to allow you to define and implement your own ontologies directly via the web. 
Finally, if anyone is D.C. based and would like to meet, I'll be in Washington towards the end of this month. 
David

David PriceCo-founderDebategraphTel: +44 (0) 20 8144 2860Web: debategraph.orgBlog: opentopersuasion.comTwitter: twitter.com/debategraph

On 1 Apr 2009, at 12:26, "Peristeras, Vassilios" <vassilios.peristeras@deri.org> wrote:













Hello Luigi, all.

 

I think that Obamaís administration takes
steps in fast pace towards semantics. 

OMB and GSA chief architects talk about
semantics and vocabularies, explicitly mentioning SIOC (see links below). 

SIOC was developed by John Breslinís
team in NUIG/DERI, Galway (happy about this
;-)

We currently work with debategraph in the
WAVE project and try to see how we could link semantics to arguments visualization
tools. The idea is to create a SIOC-Opinion extension.

If the group has an interest on this, we
could provide some relevant info or even a use case if it is not too late.

I cc David Price from debategraph and some
colleagues from DERI.

 

Best regards,

Vassilios 

 

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/03/19/obama-groundbreaking-use-semantic-web/

http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/recoverygov-1118057

http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/recoverygov-1118057/8

http://www.slideshare.net/george.thomas.name/transparency-transformation-presentation/5

 

 









From:
public-egov-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:public-egov-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Luigi Selmi

Sent: 01 April 2009 13:28

To: public-egov-ig@w3.org

Subject: applications and
vocabularies enabling public debates



 

Hi All,

I think participation and C2G lack some explanations. Participation can be
viewed in very different ways. People can interact directly with the government
or between them in order to build a consensus around a position that can be
voted and proposed to the government. The first way can lead to a form of
populism, the second way is what is generally viewed as a better and democratic
kind of participation. Participation on the Web means doing public debates on
line. On a debate people should be able to raise issues, write positions or
arguments, post links to articles, blog post, videos. All these data must be
interoperable. Debategraph [1] is a good example of an on line application that
enable participation. Unfortunately it's not possible to have the
ontology/vocabulary or a kind of data model and no bulk download of the data.
It would be useful to point in the document to some vocabulary that could
support participation like SIOC [2] and maybe SWAN [3]. An article that can be
put as a reference about debates and argumentation is "Mass argumentation
and the semantic web" [4].





Luigi





[1] http://debategraph.org/

[2] http://sioc-project.org/

[3] http://swan.mindinformatics.org/

[4] http://www.websemanticsjournal.org/papers/2007119/MassArgumentationRahwanV6I1.pdf









"A journey of a thousand
miles begins with the first step." Lao Tzu







_______________________________ 

Luigi Selmi, MSc 

addr.: 12 P.zza Roselle 00179 Rome, Italy 

skype: luigiselmi 

mobile: 3482405674 





web site: http://www.sharesemantics.com





blog: http://www.sharesemantics.com/people/weblog





cv: http://www.linkedin.com/in/luigiselmi





 















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