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Re: Mobile phone capabilities list?

From: Luca Passani <luca.passani@openwave.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:16:43 +0100
Message-ID: <004001c592b5$d10a0d80$0305690a@myopwv.com>
To: <public-ddwg@w3.org>, <www-mobile@w3.org>
Message>.  I would rather see an open source, formal program for certifying the data it provides and closing 
> any gaps between it and "commercial" solutions.  Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

this is feasible. some venture capital, 1 milion $$ to me,  1 milion $$ to Andrea, a good position for boths in the new company,
and off we go!  ;)

Luca

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Gonzalez 
  To: public-ddwg@w3.org ; www-mobile@w3.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:01 PM
  Subject: RE: Mobile phone capabilities list?



  Thanks Luca.

  I certainly see where being able to lookup device info based on the IMEI would be cool.  However, it seems like: a) soon there won't be a guaranteed correlation between the IMEI and device capabilities.  What you'll end up with is "for this IMEI with the standard shipped software load, this is what you can expect - however, your millage may vary. ", b)  gathering the necessary information about the IMEI info in the field is going to be challenging - at least as challenging as getting good device info from the manufacturers, c) IMEI isn't always (often?) available to application writers.

  In my opinion, this makes IMEI of limited utility.  I guess my view is that given all of the challenges associated with collecting and verifying this data and the limited number of hours/people available to tackle the problem, we would be better served focusing our attention somewhere else.  I love WURFL.  I would rather see an open source, formal program for certifying the data it provides and closing any gaps between it and "commercial" solutions.  Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.


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  From: www-mobile-request@w3.org [mailto:www-mobile-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Luca Passani
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:52 AM
  To: public-ddwg@w3.org; www-mobile@w3.org
  Subject: Re: Mobile phone capabilities list?


  >Or am I missing something.

  you are missing the part where we stated that IMEI would just be an *extra* way to identify the device
  as opposed to the only way.

  Luca

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dale Gonzalez 
    To: public-ddwg@w3.org ; www-mobile@w3.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:34 PM
    Subject: RE: Mobile phone capabilities list?


    Seems to me that using user-agent/connect info is better than IMEI.  IMEI is tied directly to the hardware.  As the devices become more and more advanced, the client that the user is using - which is the thing that must be adapted to - will be downloadable and only have a passing association with the hardware.  Or am I missing something.



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    From: www-mobile-request@w3.org [mailto:www-mobile-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Luca Passani
    Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:13 AM
    To: public-ddwg@w3.org; www-mobile@w3.org
    Subject: RE: Mobile phone capabilities list?


    I was told offline that IMEI is only GSM and CDMA too.

     

    Quite frankly, I still don't see why we should give up on such a powerful unique key to device capabilities,  but it explains why "purists" don't like the idea J

     

    Of course, I will consider seriously the creation of the IMEI module for WURFL in the months to come. Is there any operator willing to put some money there?

     

    Luca

     
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