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Re: Accessibility --> Archiving

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:02:31 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok3nkfVF4UNEeBpGa34m9t=ODP1ovquDKyk_+UaJO0OUmQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
That's Awesome Brent - Thankyou!!!

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 at 09:18 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Some notes from [1] "the video from the conference" in this thread.
>
> Continuing with Vint Cerf:
>
> - How to run something from 20x years ago.
> - Links resolve to something from a group of likely candidates
> - Containers: like virtualization to run apps
>
> From questions:
>
> - Preserve a digital version of ourselves.
> - Preserve apps. Right now there is an app for everything, even for
> "turning off a light bulb"
>   Consolidate. It might be easier to do this if we used a web page
> approach.
> - Privacy, right to be forgotten. To forget we have to remember what to
> forget.
>
> Starting with TimBL:
>
> - Spoke about the Church of All Knowledge at the Internet Archive
> - Gives a History of the Web.
> - At CERN there were many documentations systems, but nobody would use
> them. Hypertext was a good way to do things.
> - Web designed without national boundaries
> - HTTP brought together a host of protocols like smtp and that from usenix
> news
> - Filenames good to up computer. These came from the Apollo Domain System.
> A lot was picking
> things up people had used.
> - You can find out where your user is, but you have to put forth some
> effort.
> - Website put up files on a server and download the httpd daemon and bingo
> you are a publisher
> - More creativity without boundaries
> - Utopian level of society, what happend to that
> - Silos. I have Twitter, Instagram for Photos, LinkedIN for professional
> stuff, and Facebook. It is hard to move things
> between them and I have to learn each ones API.
> - We have a deal for free hosting. People share their privacy.
> - Model is $ for advertising. Myth that people are happy with this, and
> myth that this is optimal.
> - Data is more valuable to me than everybody else (machines/advertisers)
> - Separate Apps from Data. Run Apps and get data from places I control.
> - URLs are human readable, but URLs are names not a location. A
> cryptographic hash or address by hash could be used.
> - w3c groups to get involved with: Social web working group, web
> authentication working group
> - HTTP 2 came out that was a major rethinking. HTTP GET could be
> integrated with something like GitHub to look at differences between
> versions.
> - There is lots of tech to look at.
>
> From questions:
>
> - Top 3 promising projects: they are all wonderful in different ways. You
> can't put them in order, just like you can't put people in order.
>  In apps, make the sign up experience easy.
>
> - You can make a walled garden appealing, but the Jungle is more appealing.
>
> - Design web for documents.
>
> - Standard to integrate data. Solid project.
>   Drink Linked-Data Kool Aid. Standardize how you write things for
> applications.
>
> - Checkout the web foundation.
>
> - Semi-truck driven by interest to push through standards like WebGL for
> games or WebRTC for phone. No it is the developers, The early adopters. The
> day to day apps that are useful that can drive.
>
> - What is Web 3.0? A lot of people cannot mantain a connection. One
> direction is expressing data -- tools for exposing the web of data.
>
> - RDF URIs start with HTTP
>
> -Brent Shambaugh
>
> Skype: brent.shambaugh
> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Timothy Holborn <
> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> TimBL is up next...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, 9:58 AM Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Vint Cerf talks about a self-archiving environment as a solution to
>>> back-up the web. Implement a publish-subscribe feature with publishing
>>> restrictions. Stopped at 38:39 .
>>>
>>>
>>> I am going for food. Does anyone wish to continue where I left off?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Brent Shambaugh
>>>
>>> Skype: brent.shambaugh
>>> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Timothy Holborn <
>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vint Cerf's discussion[1] at the decentralise conference [2] goes into
>>>> some of the "how do we store stuff for a long-time" issues.
>>>>
>>>> I've been watching it now, i think i'll need to review a few times.
>>>> Perhaps we could reach-out and see if a paper or a set of notes are
>>>> available about his thoughts on the subject..
>>>>
>>>> Tim.H
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://youtu.be/Yth7O6yeZRE?t=23m30s
>>>> [2] http://www.decentralizedweb.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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