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Re: Data model abstract

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:33:38 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok2ixOEw+Bm-8poTAK554dv2=m18fkbnbTRGT5e7xerhXg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-credentials@w3.org
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 at 06:12 Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> On 06/12/2016 03:52 PM, David Chadwick wrote:
> > I would like to suggest a change to the latest data model document
> > http://opencreds.org/specs/source/claims-data-model/
> >
> > Specifically, the document abstract currently says
> >
> > A TBD credential is a set of claims made by an entity about an
> > identity. A TBD credential may refer to a qualification, achievement,
> > quality, or other information about an identity such as a name,
> > government ID, home address, or university degree that typically
> > indicates suitability.
> >
> > The problem I have with this, is that the set of claims are being
> > made about an identity, rather than the set of claims actually being
> > the identity. In my opinion the above is in direct contradiction to
> > the first sentence of the abstract which says 'An identity is a
> > collection of attributes about an entity'.
>
> Thanks for trying to help nail the terminology down, David.
>
> Keep in mind that this language pre-dates the most recent discussions
> about terminology that we've been having. We should wait to change the
> definition until after the most recent terminology vote completes next
> Wednesday... but you're right, it doesn't quite hang together anymore.
>
> > I would therefore like to change the abstract to read
> >
> > A TBD credential is a set of claims made by one entity (the issuer)
> > about another entity (the holder).
>
> Close, but not quite accurate. This is more accurate:
>
> A TBD credential is a set of claims made by one entity (the Issuer)
> about a Subject (which is often, but not always, a Holder).
>
> Define Holder again for me? At times i'm thinking the term 'target' might
be better - ie: the concept of holder means they're in control of it?

Whereas we don't manage the layer that will guarantee that is the case.
In-fact it's out of scope to even contribute solutions to that problem atm,
isn't it?



> You can view some of the more recent terminology attempts here:
>
> http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/architecture/
>
> > A TBD credential may refer to a qualification, achievement, quality,
> > or other information about the entity. A set of credentials forms one
> > of possibly many identities of the entity.
>
> We'll have to wait on this one until after the vote closes next
> Wednesday. One option is to say:
>
> A set of credentials forms one of possibly many /identity profiles/ of
> the entity.
>
> -- manu
>
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> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
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>
>
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