W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-credentials@w3.org > July 2016

Verifiable Claims dissenting opinions now public (was Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management)

From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:23:44 -0400
Message-ID: <578D1EB0.9010701@digitalbazaar.com>
To: public-credentials@w3.org, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
On 07/16/2016 05:43 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> I'm still waiting to hear back about that 1 - 2 pager that helps us 
> understand their considerations better..
> 
> Unless there is a link I've missed?

The Web Payments Interest Group face-to-face meeting minutes went public
earlier today, you can try to glean as much as you can from the minutes
here:

https://www.w3.org/2016/07/01-wpay-minutes.html#item04

The dissenting opinions came from Google (Chris Wilson), Microsoft (Mike
Champion), and the W3C Technology and Society Domain leader (Wendy Seltzer).

In general (and I hope to get more complete statements from each
organization in the next month or so):

* Mike (Microsoft) felt that the work was largely duplicative of the
  JOSE JWT work and it hasn't been incubated enough. His feedback can
  be found here:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-comments/2016Mar/0002.html

* Chris (Google) agreed with Mike's position and felt that the work
needed to be incubated more. He also felt that the work should be
constrained to Education. His feedback can be found here:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-comments/2016Mar/0003.html

* Wendy (W3C) felt that the work was duplicative of JOSE/JWT and
  felt that we only had enough members to make an attempt at
  standardization wrt. the Education vertical. Her feedback is at the
  end here:

https://www.w3.org/2016/07/01-wpay-minutes.html#item04

> I don't know how we can make good decisions without understanding the
> circumstances and underlying considerations made by key stakeholders
> who in-turn, yield such important decision making influenced. I note
> also, I'm still not sure if these parties are active contributors or
> whether they get involved on a more ad-hoc basis?

These parties have not been deeply involved in the Verifiable Claims
effort to date but have responded when asked for feedback on the
charter. Both Wendy and Microsoft have been active with the JOSE/JWT
work and Authentication / Security on the Web platform in general.

-- manu

-- 
Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
blog: The Web Browser API Incubation Anti-Pattern
http://manu.sporny.org/2016/browser-api-incubation-antipattern/
Received on Monday, 18 July 2016 18:24:11 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:19:30 UTC