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Re: Verifiable Claims dissenting opinions now public (was Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management)

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:46:24 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok2mJ5rgcU67HwbF2gB16Bvy_VcrQtrLNBBNgujUo5_ZaA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-credentials@w3.org, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
Cheers.  Will follow-up once I've had time to review.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, 4:25 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> On 07/16/2016 05:43 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> > I'm still waiting to hear back about that 1 - 2 pager that helps us
> > understand their considerations better..
> >
> > Unless there is a link I've missed?
>
> The Web Payments Interest Group face-to-face meeting minutes went public
> earlier today, you can try to glean as much as you can from the minutes
> here:
>
> https://www.w3.org/2016/07/01-wpay-minutes.html#item04
>
> The dissenting opinions came from Google (Chris Wilson), Microsoft (Mike
> Champion), and the W3C Technology and Society Domain leader (Wendy
> Seltzer).
>
> In general (and I hope to get more complete statements from each
> organization in the next month or so):
>
> * Mike (Microsoft) felt that the work was largely duplicative of the
>   JOSE JWT work and it hasn't been incubated enough. His feedback can
>   be found here:
>
>
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-comments/2016Mar/0002.html
>
> * Chris (Google) agreed with Mike's position and felt that the work
> needed to be incubated more. He also felt that the work should be
> constrained to Education. His feedback can be found here:
>
>
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-comments/2016Mar/0003.html
>
> * Wendy (W3C) felt that the work was duplicative of JOSE/JWT and
>   felt that we only had enough members to make an attempt at
>   standardization wrt. the Education vertical. Her feedback is at the
>   end here:
>
> https://www.w3.org/2016/07/01-wpay-minutes.html#item04
>
> > I don't know how we can make good decisions without understanding the
> > circumstances and underlying considerations made by key stakeholders
> > who in-turn, yield such important decision making influenced. I note
> > also, I'm still not sure if these parties are active contributors or
> > whether they get involved on a more ad-hoc basis?
>
> These parties have not been deeply involved in the Verifiable Claims
> effort to date but have responded when asked for feedback on the
> charter. Both Wendy and Microsoft have been active with the JOSE/JWT
> work and Authentication / Security on the Web platform in general.
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: The Web Browser API Incubation Anti-Pattern
> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/browser-api-incubation-antipattern/
>
>
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