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Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:40:54 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYh+h9FwY1A+XEi0yx-2YdZKv0LYNE4JnkgS4oOoSqo48bg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
On 14 July 2016 at 12:59, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:31:13 +0200, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>
> We know of the following modification requests to the charter:
>>
>> 1. Constrain the charter to Education only.
>>
>
> This strikes me as a very bad idea.
>
> It makes sense to suggest that the charter *focus* on Educational Industry
> needs, and requires that the solution is relevant there. But any approach
> to standards that suggests different industries *should* have different
> standards to solve the same problem is short-sighted and IMHO desctructive.
>
> It may well turn out that different approaches are the appropriate answer
> to the needs of say the Education and the Credit rating industries. But to
> assert that a priori seems foolish.
>
> 2. Demonstrate that the charter is not competitive to JSON Object
>>    Signing and Encryption Web Tokens (JOSE JWT).
>>
>
> Why is this important?
>
> 3. Remove or greatly narrow the overarching problem statement
>>    about self-sovereign ecosystem and goals from the charter.
>>
>> The anticipated next steps for the Verifiable Claims Task Force and
>> Credentials Community Group are:
>>
>> 1. Determine if we want to constrain the charter to Education only.
>>
>
> At this stage I am opposed to such a constraint. To the extent that I
> would strongly consider a formal AC objection to it in a charter review.
>
> cheers
>
> Chaals


+1 to everything Chaals said

I wasnt entirely clear what constrained to education meant.  It seems to me
the nature of VC is that it is based on URIs / names which can be reused in
multiple scenarios.  If it means that the language of use cases and charter
are oriented towards education.  I could live with that.


>
>
> 2. Update the Data Model and Representations specification to clearly
>>    demonstrate that this technology is not competitive to JOSE/JWT.
>> 3. Determine if we want to modify the problem statement and
>>    charter goals.
>> 4. Plan our first face-to-face meeting, possibly at W3C TPAC in
>>    Lisbon at the end of September.
>>
>> W3C Staff are currently drafting changes that they think would result in
>> consensus. Once we have those suggestions in hand, and once we've talked
>> with the dissenting organizations, we'll be able to have a better idea
>> about timeline.
>>
>> The next Verifiable Claims telecon will be Tuesday, July 12th at 11am
>> ET. Dial in details can be found here:
>>
>> https://w3c.github.io/vctf/#telecons
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>>
>
> --
> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
>  chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
>
>
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