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Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management

From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:37:23 -0400
Message-ID: <5787CDD3.8010107@digitalbazaar.com>
To: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
On 07/14/2016 06:59 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:31:13 +0200, Manu Sporny 
> <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
> 
>> We know of the following modification requests to the charter:
>> 
>> 1. Constrain the charter to Education only.
> 
> This strikes me as a very bad idea.

There is consensus within the Verifiable Claims Task Force and the
Credentials Community Group that this would be a very bad idea.

The organizations that have objected to the current charter proposal are
the ones that are requesting that the scope is narrowed. I'll also note
that these organizations are not active participants in the Verifiable
Claims Task Force, Credentials Community Group, and the Web Payments IG.

>> 2. Demonstrate that the charter is not competitive to JSON Object 
>> Signing and Encryption Web Tokens (JOSE JWT).
> 
> Why is this important?

There is a mistaken assumption that the Verifiable Claims work is
competitive to the JOSE JWT work.

The reality is that the Verifiable Claims work provides the option of
using JOSE JWT and includes an example in the specification itself
(scroll down to Example 4 here):

http://opencreds.org/specs/source/claims-data-model/#expressing-entity-credentials-in-json

>> 1. Determine if we want to constrain the charter to Education 
>> only.
> 
> At this stage I am opposed to such a constraint. To the extent that
> I would strongly consider a formal AC objection to it in a charter 
> review.

Thanks for the heads-up on that Chaals. I'll note that it was the Web
Payments Interest Group members that voted to send the charter to W3M
for approval and that 61 company group is not largely composed of
education companies. I would expect a number of them to have the same
reaction that you did if the charter were constrained to addressing
education-only use cases.

-- manu

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