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Re: Digital Resume Format

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 06:21:22 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok0bLumNy+14Hc=UJfgBNa3e3dXPqOcE2hsSqkAxSTuZOA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
Looking for stats about the world as it pertains to internet access and
literacy.  Seems important given the scope of verifiable claims and
socio-economic participation.

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 13:49 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Whilst i've written a long-response (as i have the habit of doing from
> time to time) the summary of it, is that in-order to deal with some of the
> emerging issues brought about by the implementation of verifiable claims,
> no-matter who is in the room when the decisions are made, perhaps we should
> engage those who are stakeholders in it.
>
> I've tried looking at an array of social frameworks to do so, it seems the
> interest pertains to economic use not social considerations.
>
> I have strong views, but as with everyone - i am limited by what i can do
> based on how my 'resume' is perceived by others and how that in-turn
> provides me an opportunity to economically participate in society.  The
> influence of economic participation indeed impacts life and the quality of
> life afforded to persons.
>
> So, it made sense to me that we should think about setting-up an
> opportunity to discuss the sorts of issues and functionality frameworks
> being used by people in industries who would never have participated in W3C
> before let alone have knowledge of what an ontology is...
>
> Support and contributions welcome :)  Perhaps privately message me your
> google-docs address?
>
> Tim.H
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 11:36 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I certainly agree this privacy of information is important. Good point.
>
> I wanted to add that I found a link to a resume creator called
> discover-me-semantically
> https://github.com/robstewart57/discover-me-semantically . I'm not
> sure why it is not generating an RDF file yet. It's 4 years old.
> SerenA does not resolve.
> -Brent Shambaugh
>
> GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh
> Website: http://bshambaugh.org/
> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
> Skype: brent.shambaugh
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
> wrote:
> > On 12/3/16 4:09 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> >>
> >> http signatures / credentials / verifiable claims, rdf, schemaorg,
> >> probably an array of other lod-cloud stuff...
> >>
> >> Some of the types of things that are known to relate to 'HR files' (or
> >> Resumes), whilst differing based on the industry in which they're
> >> used; include,
> >>
> >> IDENTITY
> >>
> >> BIRTH INFORMATION
> >>
> >> CITIZENSHIP
> >>  ....etc.
> >
> >
> > Wow, that's a comprehensive list — it's almost everything that anyone
> could
> > ever know about anybody. :-)
> >
> > Agreed that it would make an interesting domain for resumés.
> >
> > And agreed that employers who would like to see a comprehensive and
> > verifiable resumé might be a group that could become interested in
> > Verifiable Claims, because such a complete resumé would be important in
> > making effective hiring decisions.
> >
> > And at a quick scan through, my guess, for what it's worth, is that
> probably
> > all of it could be coded as part of Verifiable Claims, as long as there
> > would be an Issuer available for all the parts.
> >
> > But also: seeing the size of the list brings up the other side of the
> coin
> > too: privacy. Especially the recent news that the Soviet Union is
> bringing
> > in Chinese technology to create a 'safe' Internet, and of course combined
> > with all the Snowden-related revelations about our own governments,— and
> not
> > to forget the every-day tracking by Google, Facebook, and everybody else
> > that amounts to outright stalking — I can't help realizing that we need
> an
> > *iron-clad* ability to maintain privacy of this information.
> >
> > Not the individual pieces — your past employers know how you worked
> there,
> > the Birth Registry people know when you were born, the Tax people know
> how
> > much tax you paid, your Facebook friends know what kind of a sh*t you are
> > ;-); and so on. There's no getting around all those things.
> >
> > But the honey-pot. The collection of all of it. The Resumé, especially if
> > created to this depth of detail...is something that would be very
> attractive
> > to those other people I mentioned.
> >
> > Steven Rowat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> VISA INFORMATION
> >>
> >> TAX NUMBERS
> >>
> >> BANKING DETAILS
> >>
> >> EDUCATION
> >>
> >> QUALIFICATIONS
> >>
> >> LICENSES
> >>
> >> CLEARANCES
> >>
> >> ACCREDITATIONS
> >>
> >> HONOURS
> >>
> >> AWARDS
> >>
> >> LANGUAGE COMPETENCIES
> >>
> >> WORK HISTORY
> >>
> >> PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIPS
> >>
> >> PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS
> >>
> >> INVESTMENTS
> >>
> >> PSYCHOLOGICAL ATTRIBUTES
> >>
> >> MEDICAL TESTS
> >>
> >> BIOMETRIC RECORDS
> >>
> >> MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY
> >>
> >> DISABILITIES
> >>
> >> INSURANCES
> >>
> >> VEHICLE INFORMATION
> >>
> >> FAMILY INFORMATION
> >>
> >> NEXT OF KIN
> >>
> >> PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS
> >>
> >> PATENTS & INVENTIONS
> >>
> >> PUBLICATIONS
> >>
> >> PROJECT INFORMATION
> >>
> >> REFERENCES
> >>
> >> SICKNESS RECORDS
> >>
> >> CRIMINAL RECORD
> >>
> >> COURT HISTORY
> >>
> >> SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYTICS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is only a small extract of a bigger document i'm still drafting
> >> in google docs.    I think it'll be most interesting to hear from
> >> experts in different fields about how the web is changing their
> >> business, the HR policies, education and training, insurance, workers
> >> unions, etc...  I imagine we may be able to have a conversation that
> >> brings many who wouldn't ordinarily be involved with W3C works
> >> together to talk about the requirements for our modernising economy.
> >>
> >> Still WIP.  (work in progress)
> >>
> >> Tim.H
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 at 15:39 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Tim,
> >>
> >>     You got my mind going...
> >>
> >>     Are you starting with something like hResume? Perhaps with org and
> >>     FOAF? Is fine grained skills matching an eventual TODO?
> >>
> >>     http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>     On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:13 AM, Timothy Holborn
> >>     <timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>     I'm working on a conference concept for www2017[1] that is
> >>>     currently focused upon the development of engagement by way of
> >>>     considering the role of Linked-Data and Verifiable claims as
> >>>     they're asserted for a resume.
> >>>
> >>>     This in-turn is leading to more consideration about the future
> >>>     of a machine-readable resume both for getting the job you have
> >>>     in addition to being considered for the next job you might have
> >>>     - this this in-turn is indeed a simplification.
> >>>
> >>>     I started-out thinking about the implications of credentials
> >>>     simply within the domain of education; but expanded it to resume.
> >>>
> >>>     I believe this may be a topic that can be discussed over many
> >>>     session times, introducing an array of organisations who had
> >>>     never considered participating in W3C - to consider the merits
> >>>     of doing so,
> >>>
> >>>     and in-turn provide a little more context for those of us who
> >>>     have been working on the projects that are implicated in this
> >>>     type of concept (ie: digital resume format) and thereafter, i'm
> >>>     interested to know who might be interested in getting involved
> >>>     in drafting the documents with me.
> >>>
> >>>     Kind Regards,
> >>>
> >>>     Timothy Holborn.
> >>>     skype: sailing_digital
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     [1] http://www.www2017.com.au/
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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