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Re: Digital Resume Format

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 02:49:33 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok1QaBBN60w_6pB4uP0fi449aTSnAeY4kBDh3_Q_KoD44g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
Whilst i've written a long-response (as i have the habit of doing from time
to time) the summary of it, is that in-order to deal with some of the
emerging issues brought about by the implementation of verifiable claims,
no-matter who is in the room when the decisions are made, perhaps we should
engage those who are stakeholders in it.

I've tried looking at an array of social frameworks to do so, it seems the
interest pertains to economic use not social considerations.

I have strong views, but as with everyone - i am limited by what i can do
based on how my 'resume' is perceived by others and how that in-turn
provides me an opportunity to economically participate in society.  The
influence of economic participation indeed impacts life and the quality of
life afforded to persons.

So, it made sense to me that we should think about setting-up an
opportunity to discuss the sorts of issues and functionality frameworks
being used by people in industries who would never have participated in W3C
before let alone have knowledge of what an ontology is...

Support and contributions welcome :)  Perhaps privately message me your
google-docs address?

Tim.H

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 11:36 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I certainly agree this privacy of information is important. Good point.
>
> I wanted to add that I found a link to a resume creator called
> discover-me-semantically
> https://github.com/robstewart57/discover-me-semantically . I'm not
> sure why it is not generating an RDF file yet. It's 4 years old.
> SerenA does not resolve.
> -Brent Shambaugh
>
> GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh
> Website: http://bshambaugh.org/
> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
> Skype: brent.shambaugh
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
> wrote:
> > On 12/3/16 4:09 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> >>
> >> http signatures / credentials / verifiable claims, rdf, schemaorg,
> >> probably an array of other lod-cloud stuff...
> >>
> >> Some of the types of things that are known to relate to 'HR files' (or
> >> Resumes), whilst differing based on the industry in which they're
> >> used; include,
> >>
> >> IDENTITY
> >>
> >> BIRTH INFORMATION
> >>
> >> CITIZENSHIP
> >>  ....etc.
> >
> >
> > Wow, that's a comprehensive list — it's almost everything that anyone
> could
> > ever know about anybody. :-)
> >
> > Agreed that it would make an interesting domain for resumés.
> >
> > And agreed that employers who would like to see a comprehensive and
> > verifiable resumé might be a group that could become interested in
> > Verifiable Claims, because such a complete resumé would be important in
> > making effective hiring decisions.
> >
> > And at a quick scan through, my guess, for what it's worth, is that
> probably
> > all of it could be coded as part of Verifiable Claims, as long as there
> > would be an Issuer available for all the parts.
> >
> > But also: seeing the size of the list brings up the other side of the
> coin
> > too: privacy. Especially the recent news that the Soviet Union is
> bringing
> > in Chinese technology to create a 'safe' Internet, and of course combined
> > with all the Snowden-related revelations about our own governments,— and
> not
> > to forget the every-day tracking by Google, Facebook, and everybody else
> > that amounts to outright stalking — I can't help realizing that we need
> an
> > *iron-clad* ability to maintain privacy of this information.
> >
> > Not the individual pieces — your past employers know how you worked
> there,
> > the Birth Registry people know when you were born, the Tax people know
> how
> > much tax you paid, your Facebook friends know what kind of a sh*t you are
> > ;-); and so on. There's no getting around all those things.
> >
> > But the honey-pot. The collection of all of it. The Resumé, especially if
> > created to this depth of detail...is something that would be very
> attractive
> > to those other people I mentioned.
> >
> > Steven Rowat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> VISA INFORMATION
> >>
> >> TAX NUMBERS
> >>
> >> BANKING DETAILS
> >>
> >> EDUCATION
> >>
> >> QUALIFICATIONS
> >>
> >> LICENSES
> >>
> >> CLEARANCES
> >>
> >> ACCREDITATIONS
> >>
> >> HONOURS
> >>
> >> AWARDS
> >>
> >> LANGUAGE COMPETENCIES
> >>
> >> WORK HISTORY
> >>
> >> PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIPS
> >>
> >> PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS
> >>
> >> INVESTMENTS
> >>
> >> PSYCHOLOGICAL ATTRIBUTES
> >>
> >> MEDICAL TESTS
> >>
> >> BIOMETRIC RECORDS
> >>
> >> MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY
> >>
> >> DISABILITIES
> >>
> >> INSURANCES
> >>
> >> VEHICLE INFORMATION
> >>
> >> FAMILY INFORMATION
> >>
> >> NEXT OF KIN
> >>
> >> PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS
> >>
> >> PATENTS & INVENTIONS
> >>
> >> PUBLICATIONS
> >>
> >> PROJECT INFORMATION
> >>
> >> REFERENCES
> >>
> >> SICKNESS RECORDS
> >>
> >> CRIMINAL RECORD
> >>
> >> COURT HISTORY
> >>
> >> SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYTICS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is only a small extract of a bigger document i'm still drafting
> >> in google docs.    I think it'll be most interesting to hear from
> >> experts in different fields about how the web is changing their
> >> business, the HR policies, education and training, insurance, workers
> >> unions, etc...  I imagine we may be able to have a conversation that
> >> brings many who wouldn't ordinarily be involved with W3C works
> >> together to talk about the requirements for our modernising economy.
> >>
> >> Still WIP.  (work in progress)
> >>
> >> Tim.H
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 at 15:39 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Tim,
> >>
> >>     You got my mind going...
> >>
> >>     Are you starting with something like hResume? Perhaps with org and
> >>     FOAF? Is fine grained skills matching an eventual TODO?
> >>
> >>     http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>     On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:13 AM, Timothy Holborn
> >>     <timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>     I'm working on a conference concept for www2017[1] that is
> >>>     currently focused upon the development of engagement by way of
> >>>     considering the role of Linked-Data and Verifiable claims as
> >>>     they're asserted for a resume.
> >>>
> >>>     This in-turn is leading to more consideration about the future
> >>>     of a machine-readable resume both for getting the job you have
> >>>     in addition to being considered for the next job you might have
> >>>     - this this in-turn is indeed a simplification.
> >>>
> >>>     I started-out thinking about the implications of credentials
> >>>     simply within the domain of education; but expanded it to resume.
> >>>
> >>>     I believe this may be a topic that can be discussed over many
> >>>     session times, introducing an array of organisations who had
> >>>     never considered participating in W3C - to consider the merits
> >>>     of doing so,
> >>>
> >>>     and in-turn provide a little more context for those of us who
> >>>     have been working on the projects that are implicated in this
> >>>     type of concept (ie: digital resume format) and thereafter, i'm
> >>>     interested to know who might be interested in getting involved
> >>>     in drafting the documents with me.
> >>>
> >>>     Kind Regards,
> >>>
> >>>     Timothy Holborn.
> >>>     skype: sailing_digital
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     [1] http://www.www2017.com.au/
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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