- From: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 15:28:17 -0500
- Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <395da4cd-cf2d-76b0-f619-c6ecd6cfed12@verizon.net>
In this paper, proposal in the appendix is beyond my level of
comprehension. However, this passage from the Ongoing Research section
resonates strongly with me:
... Peirce explained that a vague statement requires some additional
information to make it precise
Here's my favorite definition of the word "document": Data in context.
Business-quality records require sufficient context to support the
purposes for which they are created. The concept of the "four corners
of the document" is key.
Taking into account that brevity is the soul of wit, those who fail to
provide sufficient context to facilitate understanding by others may
wish to contemplate why they should expect anyone to pay attention to them.
Those who do pay attention may wish to consider why they are permitting
others to waste their time... or, at least, the potential to use AI to
help them filter out such trash.
Life is short. It should be as meaningful as possible -- based upon
shared personal values and common objectives.
Owen
On 1/7/2020 4:39 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:
> Can I suggest we stick to StratML and CL which is the basis for
> conceptual structures (see http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/cg4cs.pdf)?
>
> This way we know we are applying standards in the to be developed
> general common frame of reference for AI and KR.
>
> Will get back on this and my mission statemennt.
>
> Milton Ponson
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>
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 12:49:24 AM AST, Paola Di Maio
> <paoladimaio10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Owen
>
> The whole purpose of life is about making aspirations true, compatibly
> with everything else
>
> I think a small demo of an automated agents that monitors certain key
> parameters written in xml is perfectly feasible, given a set of
> rules, , as a proof of concept
> I generally only do only what is within my immediate reach
> Here is a way it could be done:
> have a parameter set of CG overall goals,
> for each member have a set of actions contributing to CG goals
> run the agent periodically to check the status of the actions against
> the goals
> I am fairly sure we can find a 10 years old to help us write it :-)
>
> Large scale real world implementations may not be feasible
> because too many people need to be consulted, and too many people
> have conflicting views, and there is too much speculation and profiteering
> Technologies that dont cost much (other than server and developer time
> perhaps)
> tend not to be popular
>
> So lets think of implementing a working prototype and surely it will
> take shape at some point.
> At a minimum, as they used to say, we can prove that we can eat our
> own dog food :-0D
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net
> <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Please, Paola, stop. You're about to put me over the edge.
>
> I've long been dreaming about engaging a bunch of students in a
> brigade to do for public agencies what they should be doing for
> themselves, i.e., publishing their performance plans and reports
> in an open, standard, machine-readable format like StratML. While
> I've been hoping it might happen in India, I can't imagine the
> Chinese or Russian government, for example, would stand for that
> but, hey, I love to be proven wrong ... about such delirious dreams.
>
> Far short of that, it would be wonderful if someone could develop
> a query service that leverages the semantics and structure of the
> StratML schema as per the requirements outlined at Query/Discovery
> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_15446932-208f-11e6-a80e-7333871eb3cb>
> - Enable not only full-text but also faceted querying and
> discovery of discrete elements of StratML documents.
>
> There are more than 4,000 plans in the StratML collection
> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> that can be used for
> demonstration purposes. Hopefully, someday the collection will
> become too valuable to ignore or, at least, to treat as any old
> unstructured information, as the incumbent full-text indexing
> services apparently do.
>
> Owen
>
> On 1/6/2020 9:04 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>> :-) lots of features to play with
>>
>> ha ha, not sure if I would like an agent to remind me I am behind
>> with my own goals but technically, neat possibility
>>
>> Let's work on the idea of a possible demo implementation/prototype -
>>
>> I design web services (workflow, general specs etc), do not write
>> the implementation code for which generally I pair with a coder
>>
>> can find some students who may want to do so, or coud even set out to
>> spend ten minutes a week towards learning how to implement myself
>> so that the geeks on this list could either help or slam
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net
>> <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Don't get me too excited, Paola. I can only stand so much
>> fun. However, at the risk of becoming delirious, I invite
>> attention to these StratML tool, app, and service
>> requirements related to monitoring and nudging:
>>
>> Goal 7: Analysis
>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384f48a-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb>
>> - Enable automated as well as human assisted analysis
>>
>> Goal 11: Deadline Reminders
>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2384fe08-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb>
>> - Provide notification of impending end dates for
>> performance indicators
>>
>> Goal 15: Partnerships
>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_2385057e-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb>
>> - Enable potential performance partners to easily
>> identify each other and cross-reference their common
>> and/or complementary objectives in each other's
>> respective plans and reports (transformation of the
>> advertising/marketing paradigm)
>>
>> Goal 19: Subscriptions
>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_23850cfe-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb>
>> - Provide automated notification of changes/updates to
>> goals, objectives and/or performance indicators of
>> interest to particular stakeholder groups
>>
>> Goal 21: Critical Mass
>> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/SMLTASwStyle.xml#_238510c8-208f-11e6-8dd1-b735871eb3cb>
>> - Enable users to rally around, create networking
>> "bandwagon" effects, establish critical mass and reach
>> tipping points at which achievement of goals can be
>> assured (pledges, contributions, referrals, challenges, etc.)
>>
>> I'm not smart enough to write the intelligent agents but I'd
>> love to connect with those who are.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On 1/6/2020 8:29 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
>>> Thank you Own
>>>
>>> if we write into the plan our individual proposed actions
>>> and goals
>>> we could probably also write some intelligent agent to
>>> monitor and nudge
>>> how we are doing against our own targets. could be fun
>>>
>>> PDM
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Owen Ambur
>>> <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I updated my StratML rendition of our plan at
>>> http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/AIKRCGforComment.xml
>>> to include the roles for which we have volunteered (in
>>> E-mail messages).
>>>
>>> It would be good if we could more explicitly document
>>> our proposed deliverables as performance indicators
>>> under each of our objectives.
>>>
>>> Anyone who may wish to contribute toward that end could
>>> use the mailto links in the plan to address comments to
>>> our listserv.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>> [deleted]
>>>
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