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Re: NEW ISSUE: Drop Content-Location

From: Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA) <yngve@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:54:10 +0100
To: "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: "HTTP Working Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.tjsu8kudqrq7tp@nimisha.invalid.invalid>

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:40:25 +0100, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>  
wrote:

>
> Anne van Kesteren schrieb:
>>  It basically can't be implemented by web browsers. See for instance  
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109553 ... We've tried it  
>> as well, broke the web, and then backed it out again.
>>  Perhaps Content-Base or so can be resurrected...
>
> Hm.
>
>  From what I see the problem was that many deployed servers return a  
> Content-Location header containing a URI which in fact isn't accessible  
> from the outside. That's a server bug.


There were quite a few variations, including at least one identifying a  
different port. We ended up restricting the header to same protocol, same  
server, same port. And that was not enough.

> The header allows relative URIs, so it seems to me it would be safe for  
> user agents to support the header if - for instance - it's an absolute  
> path. That should still cover the majority of the use cases...

Sorry, Julien. Won't work.

Absolute URI:

http://www.talk.com/talk/home.do : Content-Location is  
http://www.talk.com/talk/jsp/home.jsp . Two years ago important parts of  
this site did not work due to the wrong Content-Location being used as  
Base URL. The website is currently using absolute paths for everything.  
Wonder why?

http://www.lilypaddayspa.net/: Content-Location is  
http://www.lilypaddayspa.net/lily/index.htm . The webpage contain a  
relative reference to images/headerbutton.jpg . If resolved to  
http://www.lilypaddayspa.net/lily/images/headerbutton.jpg you get a 404.

Absolute path:

http://forums.oracle.com/forums/category.jspa?categoryID=19 :  
Content-Location is /category.jsp . This page uses relative URLs in the  
links and images. The result of using Content-Location as Base-URI here is  
that the page will not work


Serverbug or configuration issue, there were (and are) enough of these  
examples that we had to disable the functionality.

Short story: Given the incorrect usage we have seen in the past few years  
it is not possible to implement client side support of Content-Location as  
a Base URL replacement. If such functionality is desired, an entirely new  
header must be defined.

-- 
Sincerely,
Yngve N. Pettersen
 
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