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Re: A bug, or a problem

From: Charles Reitzel <creitzel@rcn.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:58:05 -0400
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To: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
Cc: <html-tidy@w3.org>

Hi Octavian,

Sorry I missed your post earlier.  You can force Tidy to produce output, 
even if there are errors.  Use the option: --force-output yes.  See


Thanks for the information about screen readers, btw.  Rick has a point, 
the existing accessibility checks are based on HTML specifications.  The 
intention of the HTML specs is to make it easier to write screen 
readers.  But very few web sites are written to HTML specs.  So real-world 
screen readers work with what they get.  I am glad to hear it.

It will be difficult for Tidy to adapt to several, different screen 
readers.  I believe the platform (Windows, Linux, etc.) is the least of the 
problem.  Rather, it is the variable capabilities of interpreting web pages.

take it easy,

At 10:09 PM 8/11/2002 -0400, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

>Dear Sirs,
>I am blind and I use to validate the html files I make using the HTML 
>Tidy. The program shows me some accessibility errors that i don't want to 
>correct.  I've asked a lot of blind computer users and I couldn't find 
>anyone to like finding a default text in a form field.  The modern screen 
>readers can read the screen and don't need information like table caption, 
>or defining the row headers, etc. There are a lot other things the blind 
>users don't need and don't like.
>I think you should rethink the accessibility validation.
>I am not thinking only to Windows users that are using the best screen 
>reader.  I also used links for Linux, and lynx but I still don't like to 
>hear that text there in the form fields.
>Anyway, the Unix graphical interface is now accessible for the blind, and 
>a screen reader for this interface will be ready soon.
>If the screen reader can read the text which is before the form fields, 
>like a sighted person do, it can translate the text to speech, or to print 
>that text on a Braille display, etc.
>Now about my problem.
>Tidy DBG tell me that it found a lot of errors and that not all errors are 
>shown.  This is a problem because maybe there are other errors (not shown) 
>that I would like to correct.  However, to be able to do that, I need to 
>correct those errors I don't want to correct first.
>Can you let the program to correct all the errors?
>Thank you.
>Teddy's Center: http://teddy.fcc.ro/
>Mail: orasnita@home.ro
Received on Wednesday, 11 September 2002 09:48:23 UTC

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