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RE: SourceForge Project Approved

From: Reitzel, Charlie <CReitzel@arrakisplanet.com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:52:40 -0400
Message-ID: <B5C79DDBC655D311B6BD0008C7E64D76013C1548@exchange.arrakisplanet.com>
To: "'Valeri.Atamaniouk@nokia.com'" <Valeri.Atamaniouk@nokia.com>
Cc: html-tidy@w3.org
Hi Valeri,

I was shooting for pure ANSI C.  But, it is a rough draft and may not
compile!  I'll try to build it tonight and update the document in the
project (see Project Documentation under

As for DOM compatibility, this is a fairly complicated topic and something
I'd like to avoid saddling the project with at this early stage.  

If we do our job right, you should be able to use the library to write an
adapter that emits SAX events.  In general, if you can emit SAX events, you
can load a DOM.  It may even be possible to implement a DOM wrapper

For C/C++, however, you can't assume source compatibility w/ any DOM.  I.e.
there are no standard w3c header files for a C++ DOM.  Also, C++ linkage is
not portable between compilers.  Thus, we would need a separate Tidy-To-DOM
adapter for each C++ DOM implementation: Apache, GNOME, others?  All in good
time, I hope.

All that said, I like your diagram very much.  I think you have captured
Björn Höhrmann's original idea very well.  All I would change is to replace
the name DOM w/ "Tidy Document Tree".  In this scenario, a SAX event stream
and/or DOM wrapper is another output "format".

See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/html-tidy/2001AprJun/0027.html

Btw, Tidy currently performs "optimization" as part of the parse.


-----Original Message-----
From: Valeri.Atamaniouk@nokia.com [mailto:Valeri.Atamaniouk@nokia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:27 AM
To: html-tidy@w3.org
Subject: RE: SourceForge Project Approved

Hi Charlie

What have you sent? :) Is it C or C++ code?
Let's decide what language we will use. I stand for strict ANSI C.

What about DOM core level 1 implementation? Actually tidy has it's
proprietary DOM tree but _may_ be it would be better to implement a standard
one? Tidy then could be splitted into following parts: DOM tree building
(input), DOM tree optimisation, DOM tree saving.

Something like that

+--DOM tree building module
|  \--Input stream (character codec or 'pseudo' character codec)
+--DOM tree 'optimisation' module
+--DOM tree saving module
|  +--Output stream (character codec or 'pseudo' character codec)
|  +--XHTML
|  \--HTML


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Reitzel, Charlie [mailto:CReitzel@arrakisplanet.com]
> Sent: 21 May 2001 22:14
> To: html-tidy@w3.org
> Cc: 'Adrian Mugnolo'; 'Bjoern Hoehrmann'; 'Sebastian Lange'; Kevin
> Brannen; 'Dave Raggett'; '???'; 'Tin Le'; 
> 'Valeri.Atamaniouk@nokia.com';
> 'Aaron Chan'; 'Richard A. O'Keefe'; 'ablavier@wanadoo.fr';
> 'ac.quick@sympatico.ca'; 'dforcier@macromedia.com'; 'info@sl-chat.de';
> 'teague@mailandnews.com'
> Subject: FW: SourceForge Project Approved
> Hi All,
> I took the plunge and requested a new Source Forge project.  
> It is named
> "tidy" and the project page can be found at 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tidy/
> I especially appreciate feedback from folks working on JTidy. 
>  You are the
> inspiration for this, I reckon.  From an HTML handling point 
> of view, I see
> it as a basic requirement to keep these projects in sync.  My modest
> proposal is that this list continue as the coordination point 
> for these
> efforts.  
> This is all fairly informal, and I don't want change that.  
> But, at the end
> of the day, we'll need to update this list often enough so 
> that there are no
> surprises.  To that end, let's keep the discussion here until we get a
> quorum of developers on SF.  Which brings us to...
> We need to get SF users added to the project.  To do that you 
> need to have a
> SF account.  If you already have one, please send it along 
> and I'll add you
> to the list.  To get an account, go to 
> http://sourceforge.net/ and click on
> "New User via SSL".  It just takes a couple minutes.  Please 
> let me know if
> you can help out w/ project admin duties.  We'll need another 
> two people, at
> least.
> Are there any autoconf experts out there?  Is this the best tool for
> managing cross-platform builds?
> Also, just to get some discussion started, here is a tidy.h.  
> Comments,
> alternatives, corrections, suggestions, questions, flames all 
> appreciated.
> take it easy,
> Charles Reitzel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: noreply@sourceforge.net [mailto:noreply@sourceforge.net]
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:04 PM
> To: creitzel@arrakisplanet.com
> Subject: SourceForge Project Approved
> Your project registration for SourceForge has been approved. 
> Project Full Name:  HTML Tidy
> Project Unix Name:  tidy
> CVS Server:         cvs.tidy.sourceforge.net
> Shell/Web Server:   tidy.sourceforge.net
> Your DNS will take up to a day to become active on our site.
> While waiting for your DNS to resolve, you may try shelling into 
> shell.sourceforge.net and pointing CVS to cvs.sourceforge.net.
> If after 6 hours your shell/CVS accounts still do not work, please
> open a support ticket so that we may take a look at the problem.
> Please note that all shell/CVS accounts are closed to telnet and only
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> Your web site is accessible through your shell account. Please read
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> services, and directory layout of the account.
> Please take some time to read the site documentation about project
> administration (http://sourceforge.net/docs/site/). If you visit your 
> own project page in SourceForge while logged in, you will find 
> additional menu functions to your left labeled 'Project Admin'. 
> We highly suggest that you now visit SourceForge and create a public
> description for your project. This can be done by visiting 
> your project
> page while logged in, and selecting 'Project Admin' from the menus
> on the left (or by visiting
> https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=27659
> after login).
> Your project will also not appear in the Trove Software Map (primary
> list of projects hosted on SourceForge which offers great 
> flexibility in
> browsing and search) until you categorize it in the project 
> administration 
> screens. So that people can find your project, you should do 
> this now. 
> Visit your project while logged in, and select 'Project 
> Admin' from the 
> menus on the left.
> Enjoy the system, and please tell others about SourceForge. 
> Let us know
> if there is anything we can do to help you.
>  -- the SourceForge crew
Received on Wednesday, 23 May 2001 13:52:09 UTC

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