Re: The first five minutes ... a thought experiment (long)

On 17 February 2014 16:30, Zearin (Tony) <zearin@gonk.net> wrote:
> ## Regarding II
>
> I think it was a mistake for XProc v1 to attempt anything beyond "simple 'piping output from input'" pipelines. UNIX-based tools are nothing more than this, and people are still using them 30+ years after the fact.
>

I disagree with your statement.

Pipelines as you describe them are just one set of classes of
pipelines as described by the original WG draft. W3C members
participate in WG because they have their own vision of what a
'pipeline' is ... getting everyone to agree and moving forward on a
single, cohesive language that addresses a broad set of classes of
pipelines is hard to get right in the first try.

XProc *can* perform all simple pipelines (and a lot of very complex
ones), its just not very simple to author them.

Thats why vnext is all about usability.

> # XProc v.next
>
> Whatever the next version of XProc is, I believe it should:
>
>  * focus on **removing complexity**
>  * make it easier (as much as possible!) for users to leverage existing familiarity with "pipelines"
>  * don't try to solve everything at once; it's perfectly acceptable (and sometimes, wise) to leave truly perplexing problems for the v.next specification

+100

thx for dipping back into the conversation, I know you are one of
those folks who gave XProc a spin and hit frustrations. I think your
frustration is quite valid, we hear you and we want your input in the
coming days/weeks/months to get XProc vnext right.

thx, J

Received on Tuesday, 18 February 2014 11:38:46 UTC