- From: David Hull <dmh@tibco.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:33:49 -0400
- To: "xml-dist-app@w3.org" <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
- Message-id: <44F3613D.4090303@tibco.com>
Noah's proposed change for dealing with multicast destinations involves describing the ImmediateDestination thus: "The identifier of the immediate destination of an outbound message. (NOTE: the URI supplied MAY be the identifier of a single destination SOAP node, or MAY be the identifier of a multicast group, which itself consists of zero or more destination nodes. Whether multicast is supported is binding-dependent. This MEP specification provides no standard means for representing a multicast group, except to require that the group as a whole be designated by a URI.)" I agree this is clunky. The first sentence (taken from the current draft text) is tautological and the rest complex. I disagree it's necessary to describing multicast. What's necessary is to align the description with the rest of the document: Identifies, in a binding specific way, the SOAP node(s) meant to receive the message. I agree that it's worth noting that some bindings may be strictly unicast (which ones were those again?). That note should go at the top, either right before or after "Implementations MAY choose to support multiple MEPs at the same time." in the first paragraph of 2.2: Implementations MAY choose to limit the number of receivers to exactly one. I don't see any need to mention that we provide no standard means for representing a multicast group. We require no standard means of representing a destination at all. The rest of the note is a clear consequence of the two statements above. These statements, or at least the first, have been on the table for a while now. The concept of mapping an ImmediateDestination to zero or more receivers has been on the table somewhat longer yet. This is not an endless stream of minor tweaks. It's a finite amount of carrying through a suggestion already made. If we accept that there may be zero or more receivers for a given message -- or if you prefer, that the /event /of receipt may happen zero or more times for given message /data/ -- then as far as I can tell the special casing pretty much goes away. It's trying to maintain a strong distinction between unicast and multicast that makes things clunky. Given that implementations don't tend to distinguish, except in that some may offer syntactic means to tell the difference between a unicast or multicast /address/, I don't see why we should. What I find extremely clunky, though, is the notion that we should carry this distinction through all the way to having separate MEPs for the two cases -- or rather the one case and a particular subcase. Besides our having to write and maintain two largely identical MEPs, bindings that support both will then have to point this out. I don't see why. It seems enough for a binding to have a single sentence at the top saying "this binding limits the number of receivers to exactly one." or words to that effect.
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