- From: Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com>
- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:36:51 -0800
- To: "Williams, Stuart" <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "'Jean-Jacques Moreau'" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>
- Cc: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen \(E-mail\)" <frystyk@microsoft.com>, "John Ibbotson \(E-mail\)" <john_ibbotson@uk.ibm.com>, "Lynne Thompson \(E-mail\)" <Lynne.Thompson@unisys.com>, "Marc Hadley \(E-mail\)" <marc.hadley@uk.sun.com>, "Mark A. Jones \(E-mail\)" <jones@research.att.com>, "Martin Gudgin \(E-mail\)" <marting@develop.com>, "Nick Smilonich \(E-mail\)" <nick.smilonich@unisys.com>, "Oisin Hurley \(E-mail\)" <ohurley@iona.com>, "Scott Isaacson \(E-mail\)" <SISAACSON@novell.com>, "Yves Lafon \(E-mail\)" <ylafon@w3.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Hi all, XMLP Service Consumer could be more descriptive. And of course the relationship is many to many. cheers |-----Original Message----- |From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On |Behalf Of Williams, Stuart |Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:26 AM |To: 'Jean-Jacques Moreau' |Cc: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen (E-mail); John Ibbotson (E-mail); Krishna |Sankar (E-mail); Lynne Thompson (E-mail); Marc Hadley (E-mail); Mark A. |Jones (E-mail); Martin Gudgin (E-mail); Nick Smilonich (E-mail); Oisin |Hurley (E-mail); Scott Isaacson (E-mail); Yves Lafon (E-mail); |'xml-dist-app@w3.org' |Subject: RE: [AMG] Figure 2.1 suggested revision. | | |Jean-Jacques, | |Where I was coming from is that gradually the notion of a |'client'/'user' of |the XML protocol seems to be ebbing out of our glossary. It is a concept |that I think is important not least beacuse to some it extent it delineates |the boundary between the provider of XMLP and the user of XMLP. In doing |this it also sets the boundary on what needs to be defined in the specs. we |develop. | |The recent rewording around handler has removed references to "XML protocol |application" and the two proto definitions for "XML protocol processor" now |place responsibility on the processor to invoke the handlers. In |the process |we loose the notion of a thing that 'uses' the XMLP layer and/or some |(logical) container for a collection of handlers at a node. The suggested |revisions to the diagram were an attempt to reflect the recent glossary |changes. | |Personnally I would prefer not to loose the concept of a user/client of the |XMLP layer and I was reasonably comfortable with it as a container for a |bunch of handlers. If "XMLP Application" is not a good terms for that |concept, and there seems some reluctance to accept the term, then |lets think |of a new name for it. We've had: | | Layer Client | XMLP Service user | XMLP Application | |My personal favorite remains Layer Client... but it seemed to cause |confusion for some. | |Stuart | |> -----Original Message----- |> From: Jean-Jacques Moreau [mailto:moreau@crf.canon.fr] |> Sent: 13 March 2001 10:47 |> To: Williams Stuart |> Cc: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen (E-mail); John Ibbotson (E-mail); Krishna |> Sankar (E-mail); Lynne Thompson (E-mail); Marc Hadley |> (E-mail); Mark A. |> Jones (E-mail); Martin Gudgin (E-mail); Nick Smilonich (E-mail); Oisin |> Hurley (E-mail); Scott Isaacson (E-mail); Yves Lafon (E-mail); |> 'xml-dist-app@w3.org' |> Subject: Re: [AMG] Figure 2.1 suggested revision. |> |> |> "Williams, Stuart" wrote: |> |> > Basically, I've been trying to match the picture with our |> eveloving glossary |> > definitions. What I've done is to 'pull' the handlers back |> inside the XML |> > protocol layer and dispatch them directly from the XML |> protocol processors. |> |> I tend to see handlers as belonging to the application space, |> as Henrik, and hence it feels funny to |> see them down below the XPLayer. Aren't you actually looking |> for a new service provided by that layer, |> ie dispatching to handlers, and if so, shouldn't you |> introduce instead a new primitive (or adapt an |> existing one)? |> |> Jean-Jacques. |> | |
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