- From: Alan Kent <ajk@mds.rmit.edu.au>
- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:07:53 +1000
- To: ZIG <www-zig@w3.org>
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:06:14PM +0200, Sebastian Hammer wrote: > > Access point = /bibliographic/subject[@scheme='LCSH'], term = "computer > science" > > and so forth. Open issues would be how you address this in the search with > an atribute set identifier. You could imagine per-schema OIDs allocated by > communities who need this type of communication, or a single core OID > identifying the practice. The ideal would be an extension of the Type-1 > query which allowed us to identify an XML schema (or namespace?). ... > We have server code which supports the practice described here, so if > anyone would like to try interoperability, give me a holler or download Zebra. > > --Sebastian Interesting. A few questions if I may to tease things out a bit. You say above there were open issues on how to put it into Z39.50, then you have something implemented - how did you put it into the protocol? (I was curious to the level of functionality you thought you would need.) For example, I could imagine using a 'string' attribute value which was an XPath expression (you can use string values using 'complex' attribute values). So you define a special set with a single type (1 = Access Point?) where the value for the type is the XPath expression. But you mention another point above which is an XPath expression with namespaces requires scope information - namespace prefixes for use in the XPath expression itself. (I did not fully understand what you meant when talked about XML schemas - you don't need a schema to evaluate an XPath expression - or is that the logical schema you want to search - separating logical schemas from whatever the physical representation of the data is). Or is the idea that the 'XML' representation is just a semantic model mapped on to the real physical model (whatever it is, including MARC). That way, we can just say semantic models should not use namespaces. I am not (yet!) completely convinced introducing XPath as a means of specifying access points into Z39.50 is a good thing. Most systems predefine indexes on particular access points etc. Having a completely dynamic scheme such as XPath for identifying access points may require a completely different indexing and query engine to existing systems. Hence its unlikely any existing systems would move forward to use it. The alternative is to enumerate all the paths a system will support so you can use XPath expressions to identify a path, but its really just a fancier naming scheme (attributes instead of a number have a really long string - but the Z39.50 server just treats the string effectively as a name - if the XPath expression is in the list of supported expresions, great its supported.) Another option (not debating merit yet) is to *encode* requests using existing numeric attribute schemes. Client applications may allow users to enter an XPath like syntax. A new Explain category could always be introduced containng the information for how to convert XPath expressions into attribute lists etc. The main benefit is that its not that radical a change to Z39.50 as is. Another thing is any namespace stuff can be done by the client when mapping to attribute values. (The namespaces are almost more like OIDs identifiying the set they come out of.) So I guess the bottom line is how radical you are willing to get in terms of a model shift. Internally here, major changes are much less likely to get up. Interesting area though. Alan
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