- From: Lunau Carrol <carrol.lunau@nlc-bnc.ca>
- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:13:52 -0400
- To: "'Leif Andresen'" <LEA@bs.dk>, BATH-PROFILE-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA, "'www-zig@w3.org'" <www-zig@w3.org>
- Cc: Lunau Carrol <carrol.lunau@nlc-bnc.ca>, "Majordomo danZIG (E-mail)" <danzig@list.dbc.dk>
Leif Thank you for your comments, I hope you will be able to attend the upcoming Bath Meeting on October 3rd. The proposals submitted by Juha Hakala on behalf of CENL are on the agenda for discussion and cover some of the same points you raise. One point of clarification, the Bath Profile does currently define 2 searches using structure attribute 101 with use 1003 - 5.A.0.1 Author Search-Precision Match for Established Name Heading and 5.A.1.1 Author Search Precision Match for Established Name Heading with Right Truncation. You are correct that we do not specify the 101 structure attribute for SCAN. There is a proposal from the NISO Committee SC to remove the requirement for the use of structure attribute 101 from the profile and replace it with a left anchored phrase search. I hope that you and your European colleagues will be at the meeting to support the use of 101 so an appropriate decision can be made to reflect the needs of international interoperability. The searches for First words in field were added to the profile because of user needs which we discovered in our virtual union catalogue project. One very strongly expressed weakness with current implementations of Z at the time (from the end user perspective) was the inability to carry out a very narrowly defined title search when the searcher knew the title and it consisted of one or two words. The common example we use in Canada are various journals with titles like: 'Canadian literature' or 'Agora' etc. This was based on needs expressed by real users commenting on the weaknesses with existing systems which were barriers to their using Z39.50 for searching. Carrol Lunau Bath Profile Maintenance Agency National Library of Canada Ottawa, ON Canada Tel: 613-996-3262 Fax: 613-947-2916 email: carrol.lunau@nlc-bnc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Leif Andresen [mailto:LEA@bs.dk] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:00 AM To: BATH-PROFILE-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA; 'www-zig@w3.org' Cc: Majordomo danZIG (E-mail) Subject: Bath-profile: relation to national profiles...................... ...... J.nr. 331-3 Comments to Bath by danZIG For discussion at the Bath profile Meeting October 3, 2001 (Agenda item 1) In order to increase the value of the Bath Profile it should be possible to have a national profile, where the Bath Profile is a real subset. We have checked the danZIG-profile in comparison with the Bath Profile and have found some difficulties. Formats: Bath requires UNIMARC or MARC21 at level 1. But it will not be suitable for a national Danish standard profile to require formats not used in Denmark. The text in the danZIG-profile is: Both Origin and Target systems must support the danMARC2 record syntax, which include ISO8859-1 as character set plus SUTRS in order to conform to danZIG Step-1. Support for MARC21 is optional but highly recommended in both Origin and Target systems. We have in danZIG-profile used structure attribute 101 name-normalised both in SCAN and for SEARCH for USE 1003, but the Bath Profile use phrase. Position "first in field" (value 1) gives us real problems. Library systems on the Danish market don't support the function "First Words in Field". We have discussed in and don't see the reason for this function. We use the combination: Position = Any Structure = Phrase Compleness = incomplete subfield for two ore more words in connection. The Danish tradition is to use SCAN for a "complete phrase" to support a user who knows the word/words to start a title. It seems not sensible to demand new indexes where the use isn't obvious. best regards for danZIG Leif Andresen ******************************************************** Leif Andresen * Email: lea@bs.dk Library Advisory Officer Danish National Library Authority Nyhavn 31 E, DK-1051 Copenhagen K Phone direct: +45 3373 3354 Phone: +45 3373 3373 * Telefax: +45 3373 3372 ********************************************************
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