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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3220 ------- Comment #2 from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com 2007-10-16 23:00 ------- For what it's worth, my opinion is: * Regarding schema documents: We have a definition in the specification of the requirements for a document to be a conforming schema document. I think the editors draft of 2.4 is fine as it is regarding schema document conformance, and I don't think we should say anything about "errors" there. A document either conforms or it doesn't. Whether that's an error for one purpose or another is mostly beyond the scope of this Recommendation, except for use in building a schema (see next point). So, regarding conformance of documents, I would not task the editors with drafting new text. I think what we have is good. * Regarding processors working on non-conforming schema documents: I think I'd say something along the lines of: "The rules provided herein for mapping information from an XML document into schema components, I.e. those provided for use in *schema-document aware* processors, apply only to conforming *schema documents*. Accordingly, any attempt to apply such rules or similar rules to non-conforming documents are beyond the scope of this specification. "Note (this is to be included after the para above): the above is carefully worded to account for the fact that, although schema-document aware processors take at least some of their input in the form of schema documents, they may acquire additional schema information from other sources as well. Thus, although it would be unusual, it is not strictly prohibited for such a processor to acquire schema components from documents that resemble but don't quite conform to the rules for schema documents, or by applying new mapping rules that work around such "errors". What such a processor must not do is claim that such documents are conforming schema documents, and it must not claim to have (successfully) used the mapping rules provided herein to create components from them. In practice, almost all schema-document aware processors will treat as erroneous input documents that are not conforming *schema documents*." I know that's a bit clumsy, but I think it's a correct explanation of how things work. My hope is that the last sentence clears things up, without unnecessarily claiming that the rules are fixed when in fact they're not. I think the underlying design and layering is good, and indeed one can imagine reasons for building processors that would fix up broken documents and proceed. In principle, I think you could say something like the following as well, but I suspect it will be confusing to the 98% of readers to whom it is not directed anyway, so probably I'd leave it out. Just in case it motivates anyone to tune it up: * Regarding errors in born-binary components: "As noted elsewhere, schema processors may use a variety of means to acquire the schema components to be used for validation. The assessment relation requires as a precondition a schema meeting the constraints on components set out herein. Processors may build in such components in their code, and/or may construct them based on various forms of processor-specific runtime input. Whether problems with such input cause the processor to reflect an error, and if so what sort of error, is beyond the scope of this recommendation." I think I can just barely live with the workgroup's agreement at the F2F as recorded here in comment 1, but I'm not really happy with it. The above more directly reflects how I think things work and how we should explain things. Thank you. Noah
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